Dissecting Erfinder’s comments

[forelle]

Hi Erfinder
Why do you let all speculate what you have?How many letters would you like to write till you show us what you want to show.

[Radiantnrg]

We are going to do the long magnet with long coil tests. What got us started on this quest is watching the Lockridge DVD by Peter Lindeman. Our goal is a self running motor generator to power houses and cars. My intuition tells me that the optimum coil type and coil to magnet relationship is going to much different for the motor part and generator part.
We may end up with 2 sections on one shaft. Our test data will show us what to do. Set up for testing and local hunt for black sand will start this weekend. One question I have is when comparing single wire coils of different wire sizes how do we know we have compared them properly. Same length of wire, same # of winds, or same weight of wire?

[Brodie Gwilliam]

with air and magnetite cores i believe neo magnets work the best form what ive read.... i would love to see some tests with really long magnets like adams motors..... also non litzed wire in tesla series.... compare charging on say 8 100ft strands in series compared to parallel at same amp draw and maybe also a single 800ft strand on a coil

[aln]

Back reading thru some posts, and Erfinder's reference to the importance of unidirectional flux. I may be wrong, but for me, this is key. Successive coils are wound in a way and in series so that the cemf continues to flow in one direction. This enables flux to travel in a path around the machine. I don't know if this is what Tesla meant when he talked about "harnessing the wheelwork of nature," but it comes to mind for me. There is a kind of right-order here with creation, with its own natural continuity and intrinsic beauty.
Bob

Same lines of thought for me. Aln

[erfinder]

thousands of lines of text on to two litz or not to litz
thousands of lines of text on whether one should use bifilar..
so many asking the same questions ...like what is the benefit of a bifilar coil
whats the difference between a bifilar and a normal coil
why all north poles
whats the advantage of all north poles
whats a super pole
whats radiant energy
whats reactive power
why can't I use neo magnets
This is where our research is going to start. Believe nothing at all about what we have been told by anyone. We are going to make coils with one wire, multiple wires, litz, non litz and then rum different sized magnets and different types of magnets by each coil along the ends and along the sides. Then both ends of the coils at the same time. The coils will be spool type coils and long narrow coils like in a generator or motor. Once we have fully tested single coils we will start to add other coils into play one at time. We will connect them together and put them close to each other but not connected to check for inductance between them. What spacing causes inductance between coils? We will end up with a massive amount of data that we will give away, all of it for free! We have over 20k feet of many sizes of wire due to arrive today. I have Ed Leskalins booklet on magnetism. There will be no superiority or guessing games played of any kind! Lights, Action!

...camera rolling.....
...quiet on set.......

[Radiantnrg]

thousands of lines of text on to two litz or not to litz
thousands of lines of text on whether one should use bifilar..
so many asking the same questions ...like what is the benefit of a bifilar coil
whats the difference between a bifilar and a normal coil
why all north poles
whats the advantage of all north poles
whats a super pole
whats radiant energy
whats reactive power
why can't I use neo magnets
This is where our research is going to start. Believe nothing at all about what we have been told by anyone. We are going to make coils with one wire, multiple wires, litz, non litz and then run different sized magnets and different types of magnets by each coil along the ends and along the sides. Then both ends of the coils at the same time. Then with 3 core types, air, iron and black sand. The coils will be spool type coils and long narrow coils like in a generator or motor. Once we have fully tested single coils we will start to add other coils into play one at time. We will connect them together and put them close to each other but not connected to check for inductance between them. What spacing causes inductance between coils? We will end up with a massive amount of data that we will give away, all of it for free! We have over 20k feet of many sizes of wire due to arrive today. I have Ed Leskalins booklet on magnetism. There will be no superiority or guessing games played of any kind! Lights, Action!

[bob smith]

Yup....seems like you are one of the few listening Bob. The point is not so much the "in your face effect", its the mechanism, the nature and desire of that which moves through this geometry is of profound significance and interest to me. Like the moth is drawn to the flame, the majority are immediately drawn to the acceleration effect, the red herring. Distracted, they miss the message, which is, in my opinion, UNIDIRECTIONAL FLUX. Tesla said something funny once, something which supports my view, namely, in his system the currents aren't allowed to reverse. What is current? I have heard all the arguments regarding what was implied by Tesla's statement, and the idea that current has something to do with the "electron theory" is familiar to me as well, (I don't buy into the electron theory as it applies to current...), to those who would bring those arguments back to my attention, I offer the following. Tunnel vision = stagnation. We must connect the dots, we must make connections which aren't there until we make them. Regards

Back reading thru some posts, and Erfinder's reference to the importance of unidirectional flux. I may be wrong, but for me, this is key. Successive coils are wound in a way and in series so that the cemf continues to flow in one direction. This enables flux to travel in a path around the machine. I don't know if this is what Tesla meant when he talked about "harnessing the wheelwork of nature," but it comes to mind for me. There is a kind of right-order here with creation, with its own natural continuity and intrinsic beauty.
Bob

[bigmotherwhale]

you said you were out... i presumed you were leaving.
yes i know im probably wrong as i said, but i have to think something. maybee you have spelled it out but i cant understand it and im not the only one. my brain works by pictures not words and translation is difficult, equations mean very little to me and if i don't see it i cant comprehend it.
I did think we were having a meaningful exchange? maybe because im not getting it you think it doesn't mean anything?
I do know north and south are always present, what's important about the picture is the direction of the spiralling magnetic vortex or at least that's what it means to me. correct me if i am wrong of course you will.
the reason i speculate is for me and not for you, surely i have to try, is trying something new not the most important thing?
I cant copy you because i don't know what you are doing, if i did i would.
anyhow i wont be back on here until September.
Cheers man.

[erfinder]

Sad to see you go erfinder, 7 years in the research is a along time..... Its a shame you don't see anyone here being able to reproduce your work,
the last picture you posted is the one I think will help the most you posted it before but no one realised what you were on about, and when you said use both sides of the magnet, I originally thought North South.
I will say what i think. you have an unselective biased mismatched series parallel network generating infinite overtones capacitively coupled (via the switch) to the supply, switched before and after the coil passes the magnet. the geometry you speak of is a triangle. The CEMF exists but it has been offset via coil connection geometry directly and electronically, to be close to zero but never zero.
I will probably realise that this is all wrong but i am going to try anyway.
can you create a solid state reactor? that would be cool....
Thanks dude... its been one hell of a ride

Uh....I'm not going anywhere.....and I agree, it is a shame that I don't see anyone here being able to reproduce my work.

The image.....what about it....what do you see, what did I say about this image? Both sides....IS north and south, but not like you or anyone else is thinking. North and South are one. Where you find the one you find the other.

Regarding what you think......feel free to think whatever you want, 90 percent of what you say doesn't match whats happening on my bench. The geometry is not a triangle. CEMF is the heart of the matter, the wave forms indicate that your conclusion about it being offset because of... .....is inaccurate. When you realize that you got it all wrong, let me know, maybe then we can start again and hopefully have a meaningful exchange regarding what I have. I am not asking you to speculate on what I have! I am willing to spell it out for you, give you a running start as it were, but....you don't agree with me, you want to do it your way...I will hang back in the corner, cheering for you.

I am not interested in solid state. Motors have untapped potential, Tesla said that, I believe him, I've proven it for myself.....I'm sticking with him.


Regards

[bigmotherwhale]

Sad to see you go erfinder, 7 years in the research is a along time..... Its a shame you don't see anyone here being able to reproduce your work,
the last picture you posted is the one I think will help the most you posted it before but no one realised what you were on about, and when you said use both sides of the magnet, I originally thought North South.
I will say what i think. you have an unselective biased mismatched series parallel network generating infinite overtones capacitively coupled (via the switch) to the supply, switched before and after the coil passes the magnet. the geometry you speak of is a triangle. The CEMF exists but it has been offset via coil connection geometry directly and electronically, to be close to zero but never zero.
I will probably realise that this is all wrong but i am going to try anyway.
can you create a solid state reactor? that would be cool....
Thanks dude... its been one hell of a ride

[erfinder]

I am no fraud. But feel free to think that, I honestly hope that thinking such helps you progress, helps you comprehend what I am saying. I have spent most of the last 7 years as a hermit of sorts in my cluttered office experimenting for you. Asking the questions that you all should be asking your idols but don't have not. I have found effects that you all should be experiencing on your benches, you don't have them. What I offer is expensive, deal with it......I'm not askign you to fork over 500 dollars for a circuit containing 50 dollars in parts.....just saying... I don't care if you purchase, I prefer you figure it out, the basics are easy....I am positive if you have what it takes, you can get the basic effects on your own, Kiril demonstrated he has what it takes, he got the basic effect to show up.... he was wise though, he comprehended that he could not do it better than the source, he realized, through our exchanges that there was more going on than what he was able to accomplish. I don't foresee any of you here comprehending how to use the reactor. The only ones who I am positive will comprehend it are your idols, and the few who see value in what I offered them. You can do and think what you like. I make no claims other than my effects and my interpretation of them. Do what you think you can, ask whom ever you want, you will only get so far with what has been selflessly provided, you will get lost, but that's not a bad thing, being lost is when you find yourself, I want you lost! I was lost when I found all this. When you have stumbled around in the dark long enough, and begin to see what I see, Ill be here waiting. See guys, I knew it was going to come to this, that you all would wine and ***** about this that and the other. That's why there is no data, if there was data there would be something else to ***** about, progress would stagnate because I didn't dot and i or cross a t. I focus on the concepts because that's what matters.

Search these forums, there are thousands of lines of text on COP...
thousands of lines of text on to two litz or not to litz
thousands of lines of text on whether one should use bifilar..
so many asking the same questions ...like what is the benefit of a bifilar coil
whats the difference between a bifilar and a normal coil
why all north poles
whats the advantage of all north poles
whats a super pole
whats radiant energy
whats reactive power
why can't I use neo magnets

The list of repeated questions should say something to you. What it says to me is the channel of communication is in a word...BROKE! There are books on one machine but there are 4 or 5 machines being discussed, and the slap in the face is that technically they are all the same machine. I give you the basics as I have come to understand them. I give you effects and concepts that no other experimenter has brought to your attention. I told you all in a post that I have long since removed, that I got the basic effect with a machine that was initially designed to be an SG. I ripped out the SG circuit, and installed my own, and then shot a video of this machine in action. In the video I showed the big 12 coil machine back charging the supply when the PWM is removed exactly like I show in the orthogonal machine. I said then that I felt the geometry was wrong, and this feeling was followed and the orthogonal machines were the result. The orthogonal is way smaller than my 12 coil machine, less wire, and is air core, in spite of this, it produced more back charge than the big machine did!? Lot of research went into this, lot of time, lot of money, all mine!

It's been said that there's more than enough info for you to build what you want.....get to building then, we will compare notes when you're done, all that has been provided are the basics. I have nothing to loose by saying do what you want....SAVVY!

I'm out......




Regards

[Radiantnrg]

http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/...oduct_guide#22 This is the very good source we are using for all sizes of wire.

[OrthoParameter]

I'm ready now to call erfinders bluff! If you look at post 112 in this thread it tells all. erfinder keeps claiming everyone with all their concepts and machines are pure trash and he only he is the only one who has the "holy grail". Every one else is just too stupid and inferior to him. He keeps saying he wants to help others but read post 112 with all it's pure put downs and condemning statements. I think this is the scam at work. You must buy his machines to try to find the "magical ideas" that don't exist. You will forever be trying to discover the "non existent magic" so he will never have to refund anything. He can just say you haven't "found it" yet LOL. He says we have to "discover that magic on our own" before he will discuss anything with anybody. This is all getting very old fast. I contacted him by email in private and he refused to give or guarantee any kind of performance data for his high priced machines. Concepts are more important than performance. He's doing exactly what he is accusing Bedini of doing. We have put together a very brilliant team and we are going to free source all of our findings!

Tell us what you really think.
You don't know him.

You must buy his machines to try to find the "magical ideas" that don't exist. You will forever be trying to discover the "non existent magic" so he will never have to refund anything. He can just say you haven't "found it" yet LOL.

It is not magic it is technology and it is real. You make accusations about someone you know nothing about. He has more integrity and honor than you can possibly conceive as is clear by your statements.

We have put together a very brilliant team and we are going to free source all of our findings!

Please do that and when you can show me half the "magic" I have in his kit, I will buy your technology.
By all means, go build an SG if that's what you prefer. No one is twisting your arm.

[bigmotherwhale]

I'm ready now to call erfinders bluff! If you look at post 112 in this thread it tells all. erfinder keeps claiming everyone with all their concepts and machines are pure trash and he only he is the only one who has the "holy grail". Every one else is just too stupid and inferior to him. He keeps saying he wants to help others but read post 112 with all it's pure put downs and condemning statements. I think this is the scam at work. You must buy his machines to try to find the "magical ideas" that don't exist. You will forever be trying to discover the "non existent magic" so he will never have to refund anything. He can just say you haven't "found it" yet LOL. He says we have to "discover that magic on our own" before he will discuss anything with anybody. This is all getting very old fast. I contacted him by email in private and he refused to give or guarantee any kind of performance data for his high priced machines. Concepts are more important than performance. He's doing exactly what he is accusing Bedini of doing. We have put together a very brilliant team and we are going to free source all of our findings!

I dont feel put down at all, erfinder is sharing his information and his ideas, of course they dont match with mine, if you dont want the kit dont buy it, im not going to, I would prefer to work it out, there is enough information here to make 10 machines....
erfinder has taken the time to reply to my drivel and spent time and money developing a kit, i would say that's a pretty positive thing.. krill has a machine that shows alot of the same stuff as he talks about.

[aln]

I'm ready now to call erfinders bluff! If you look at post 112 in this thread it tells all. erfinder keeps claiming everyone with all their concepts and machines are pure trash and he only he is the only one who has the "holy grail". Every one else is just too stupid and inferior to him. He keeps saying he wants to help others but read post 112 with all it's pure put downs and condemning statements. I think this is the scam at work. You must buy his machines to try to find the "magical ideas" that don't exist. You will forever be trying to discover the "non existent magic" so he will never have to refund anything. He can just say you haven't "found it" yet LOL. He says we have to "discover that magic on our own" before he will discuss anything with anybody. This is all getting very old fast. I contacted him by email in private and he refused to give or guarantee any kind of performance data for his high priced machines. Concepts are more important than performance. He's doing exactly what he is accusing Bedini of doing. We have put together a very brilliant team and we are going to free source all of our findings!

Radiantnrg,
I reread post 112 and understand that you have not seen the full progression of what has been displayed. Erfinder is not a "soft speaker" he writes as he thinks. It can be irritating if you let it be, it may not be "politically correct" but it holds a value to many of us. Yes we understand he has a kit to sell, sending money overseas is a big deal, don't do it then. Some people build, some buy kits, some do both, and some just read and write. I encourage you to go to youtube and find Kiril's video's many are very short, watch his progression on all 10 set-ups. Look at the wave form on his scope shots, and compare it to the Kromery converter wave form. Figure out the significance of it. Then tell us all what the significance is, as many don't know either. God bless, Aln