Dissecting Erfinder’s comments

[erfinder]

Dude did you see the link i posted and the words underneath? it was a joke! hence the rotfl! could you not see from my previous posts that i would never ask that from you? and that i also feel it is already here for anyone who listens.
its okay tho just a mis-understanding i can comprehend your response tho, not suprising all the petty non productive remarks and for lack of a better word - poilitics.
my build starts mid september as im not at home right now, i can only think, my mind is not as clouded and head bashing has ceaced.
you have a supporter dude, i beleive in you.

someone once said to me:
'You are wise, not because you know the answers, but because you are looking for them.'

Guess its starting to take its toll.....the resistance you know...forgive me for reading through that at light speed and missing the joke....I appreciate your support, with each post like this one, you earn mine....Like Kiril before you, I believe that through your own effort you too will experience the basic effects of this I am sure. If you need me you know how to reach me. Again forgive me for being short with you.


Regards

[erfinder]

Erfinder,

I have now read all of your posts on this forum, it has taken me a long time and I still do not comprehend everything you are saying. if I had a small machine in front of me and the circuit you are using we could understand. even just the 2 or 3 coil arrangement you wrote to kiril about. over and over again you tell everyone they do not understand except for maybe kiril's work which has helped a bit. you say if I don't buy your kit I will never get it, and yet you tell us it is so easy to understand you have shared everything. I don't think there would be a thread trying to "dissect" your comments if everyone understood.


John Bedini shared all his work including how he builds things. you can buy stuff from him, or you can read his work on the internet and buy a few DVD to understand. you can build the school girl motor for free with a few parts scrounged up. I think this is his forum, right?

why do you not share the motor completely and then also offer to build it for those who can afford it? I know I cannot afford it right now. I watched your last video and you show the motor behind the scope as being the answer, the tool or the kit or whatever you want to call it.

I cannot afford your expensive kit, but I can cobble together some wire and a few components so I can actually learn something instead of
Fred

Ok ....You've read everything, I appreciate your time. You don't comprehend everything...you aren't alone on this. I don't recommend folks build anything, this recommendation is always ignored, I don't expect you to behave any differently than the rest. You may have missed it but you don't need the circuit i use....I have said that time and time again, this too is ignored....

I say if you don't get the kit, you wont see what I see, and this is true! Why folks think otherwise is beyond me.....I tell you the basic effects are easy to get....seems like you are suggesting that I am contradicting myself....I'm not. I was told the thread was started because I speak in riddles...

John Bedini shared all his work including how he builds things.....Fred, I am not John Bedini. Look at the huge mess being made there. I have yet to see a single person get what they are supposed to be getting from that system. I am hopeful that one day I will see such. I own all the material they sell...you cannot build anything that information suggest for free...my biggest SG cost me 4000 euros, I built two.....I figured go big or go home. I do believe this is his forum...not sure where you're going with that.

It took me a very long time to get to where I am, to get to the point to where I know exactly what I want you to see and when. I showed my system several times complete, pointless experience. What I call details others are not interested in....the majority only want schematics and blueprints, they don't care how you think your device works. Well with me you get how i think my device works, and demonstration of the devices in action. I am not looking for you to replicate. You watched the last video..and the only thing you can tell me about it is that I made some remark about a machine behind the scope.....so the clip was a waste of both of our time.....

Not many can afford the kit, hell I cant afford the damn thing! I am glad I took the chance though, because had I not, I wouldn't have anything to crap in your ear about!? I am not asking you to build anything, not asking you to buy anything, if you want to do something do it. What you do is up to you. For the record, I didnt ignore this post, you came on kinda strong, like many with that attitude like I owe you something....I take my time responding to such posts...


Regards

[bigmotherwhale]

Dude....what do you require that wasn't already provided? I told you the circuit doesn't matter. The only requirement being it must be a PWM circuit, preferably hall or opto triggered. I told you how to wind your coils, how to connect your coils, where to connect the scope and why.....What more can I provide, a set of plans for something that simple sends me the message that you are too stupid to comprehend what was said. I know better than that, I don't draw the attention of stupid people, I don't associate myself with stupid people!

Kiril hit the ground running....you gotta love him for his effort! You have no idea how good it felt to see him get the basic back charging, his results sucked, but he experienced what all must, a shedding of the old skin......it was beautiful! What his effort showed is anyone can do it! No plans from me! Stop asking for plans, you said there is enough info to build what you want....build something.....

No one gave me plans, I figured if plans were needed, I would have found one who had some for sale....guess I didn't need any....cause here I am telling you you don't need any. What I do offer you is something you won't get on your own, but that's another story.

I showed you a video of how stupid easy it is, still not good enough, I honestly don't know what else to do, the next step would be to draw it all out in crayon and treat you all like children instead of serious researchers? I don't have time for that. When you get the effects....the basic ones...where are you going to go from there? That's the question I keep asking myself. Where ever you end up, I hope it's where I wanted to accompany you.


Regards

Dude did you see the link i posted and the words underneath? it was a joke! hence the rotfl! could you not see from my previous posts that i would never ask that from you? and that i also feel it is already here for anyone who listens.
its okay tho just a mis-understanding i can comprehend your response tho, not suprising all the petty non productive remarks and for lack of a better word - poilitics.
my build starts mid september as im not at home right now, i can only think, my mind is not as clouded and head bashing has ceaced.
you have a supporter dude, i beleive in you.

someone once said to me:
'You are wise, not because you know the answers, but because you are looking for them.'

[Halfcutt]

Thanks BMW
I didn't know, I couldn't imagine what I said, guess it was just a timing issue.
I posted before about the wave, 1&3, Erfinder said to not get caught up in it, I don't think anyone should either, but at the same time, it is just part of the first step, it is something you should see. It would be impossible not to, I think. One coil, scope it!
I would like to be sitting in at the university lecture that day. Lucky kids or profs, I hope they appreciate it.

[fredsavage]

actually I asked the only question that really matters, who you wont share the circuit and how it works..... OH I know you want my money....


I find this fascinating that Erfinder has not responded to my post, but ortho did..... thanks for the insult, I will not respond in kind. it was a simple request to put on the bench the theory Erfinder has espoused, you want 2500 dollars to see an effect? really? for 2500 I want a working device that powers itself and runs loads. that is the holy grail, you Erfinder have made zero claims, only tried in round circular descriptions to say something that has led you to something you do not want to give away......

at least the members of this forum (most of them anyway) are willing to share what they know. thanks Patrick, after seeing your post on coil paralleling I will try it and see how a PWM can chop the wave.

thanks Tom C for the post on the side by side coils over on the Ferris wheel thread, I think it has some merit to how the circuit is driven. perhaps if one set of coils is switched at the zero cross of the other set, it might give us something we can use.

Fred

[erfinder]

'Would you like a set of blueprints with those photos?'

that would be sweet

peace to all

BMW out

Dude....what do you require that wasn't already provided? I told you the circuit doesn't matter. The only requirement being it must be a PWM circuit, preferably hall or opto triggered. I told you how to wind your coils, how to connect your coils, where to connect the scope and why.....What more can I provide, a set of plans for something that simple sends me the message that you are too stupid to comprehend what was said. I know better than that, I don't draw the attention of stupid people, I don't associate myself with stupid people!

Kiril hit the ground running....you gotta love him for his effort! You have no idea how good it felt to see him get the basic back charging, his results sucked, but he experienced what all must, a shedding of the old skin......it was beautiful! What his effort showed is anyone can do it! No plans from me! Stop asking for plans, you said there is enough info to build what you want....build something.....

No one gave me plans, I figured if plans were needed, I would have found one who had some for sale....guess I didn't need any....cause here I am telling you you don't need any. What I do offer you is something you won't get on your own, but that's another story.

I showed you a video of how stupid easy it is, still not good enough, I honestly don't know what else to do, the next step would be to draw it all out in crayon and treat you all like children instead of serious researchers? I don't have time for that. When you get the effects....the basic ones...where are you going to go from there? That's the question I keep asking myself. Where ever you end up, I hope it's where I wanted to accompany you.


Regards

[erfinder]

The one thing that I know for certain is that no one is asking the right questions. Since this discussion has no practical value to a select few, I direct this at them. What is the Dipole! Note the lack of question mark....I am not asking you to inform me of what it is, I have my own dogma of what it is, but inquiring minds would like your take on it. See, honestly I don't think those of you who take cheap shots at me have a clue! The one that you assume to have was given to you by someone else......You hang around with the inner circle wannabees....trying to get in good with them so as to be seen as one of them, good luck with that....The inner group surrounds the man with the knowledge....how much of "his knowledge" have you been able to distill from the sea of information which occult's the gems we all know he has? See, I don't bad mouth my sources of inspiration, I have no sympathy for their cheerleaders though, the merry band of rear smoochers, those who will do any and everything to keep the king of the mound happy, whomever that might be. How much have you been able to figure out?

The way I see it......the mother of all secrets is in properly defining the entity we ignorantly call the dipole isn't it? Isn't that where Bearden says all the energy is pouring in from? I repeat my question, my challenge.....tell them what a dipole really is.....let me help you on this one....show them the dual monopole, the clover....the quadrapole! Explain to them how it works, in layman's terms, show them how to use it in a self sustaining manner.....clever switching my ass.....do that and I will leave! This challenge is not directed at the ones who inspired me to seek it out myself. This challenge is directed at the cheerleaders, minions of the man with the knowledge.


Regards

[bigmotherwhale]

'Would you like a set of blueprints with those photos?'

that would be sweet

peace to all

BMW out

[OrthoParameter]

i wasnt going to post but come on, whats wrong?

are you bitter becuse someone wont give you the answers? JB does not give everything away after all.... i cant comprehend this.

I'm afraid you have hit the nail on the head here.

See if you can figure out who is who here:

There is always someone who knows something of great import and is trying to convey that knowledge.

There are the blind who become the antagonists because they either don't agree with message or don't appreciate the delivery. Some of them are just ever so sarcastic.

Then there are the fence sitters, the feather smoothers who usually lean just a bit towards the antagonists only would never admit it.

I take it back

Would you like a set of blueprints with those photos?

[bigmotherwhale]

no not you sorry halfcutt! i was reffuring to all the bull****. wanting to see a video is not a problem sorry dude!

it just seems people are sending out bad vibes to someone who in my opinion has only tried to help

[Halfcutt]

BMW

? Me?
I never asked anyone for anything? Only to see a video.
I saw it!
I'm done.

[bigmotherwhale]

i wasnt going to post but come on, whats wrong?

are you bitter becuse someone wont give you the answers? JB does not give everything away after all.... i cant comprehend this.

http://www.greatdreams.com/coral-curgrows.jpg

try to work it out

[Halfcutt]

Hello

Erfinder, maybe it's silly of me, but are you giving everyone the ok to dissect your work? I wasn't sure if you were ok with that. I haven't started experimenting with anything, and I'm not trying to be smart with anyone!
I think I remember a tesla patent which produced the square from DC, and also one which laid out the regauging configuration, but I'll have to go back through a pile of " stuff". Can't quite remember, but something does seem familiar.

[erfinder]

Hi Aln,
I personally apologize for tossing that grenade.
Maybe we'll all have more answers in "a few weeks" when Steve shares his work with the university for free - LOL

I agree OP has a smell to it, it's difficult to take on another character when writing even when that character resides w/in. I think there are trails there.

just reading his posts make for an interesting soap, for low budget late night youtube.

I'll try to let the flow stick w/ Dissecting Steve's Findings rather than comments.
Back to my cheetos - to think I almost gave them away.
KR
Patrick

pathetic....I truly thought you were better.....

[min2oly]

Hi Aln,
I personally apologize for tossing that grenade.
Maybe we'll all have more answers in "a few weeks" when Steve shares his work with the university for free - LOL

I agree OP has a smell to it, it's difficult to take on another character when writing even when that character resides w/in. I think there are trails there.

just reading his posts make for an interesting soap, for low budget late night youtube.

I'll try to let the flow stick w/ Dissecting Steve's Findings rather than comments.
Back to my cheetos - to think I almost gave them away.
KR
Patrick

I am not sure why my message didn't make it, but I have Private messaged 4 people on this forum, Bobzilla, Patrick, Dennis F. (1x), and Ortho (1x). You want it in the open ok. I am not trying to hide anything. For all I know, Orthoparameter is Kiril, who is Erfinder. I am not super savy on the computer to know how to Skype or investigate. I want to believe all this is true, but I will not make the sacrifice others have made until I see some results on my bench. Which may take me a little bit. I will not progress with the three of you who "have what I see," as erfinder states until I am certain of the things stated being fact. That being said, no one here can prove them to me. I need to find them. There are lots of unuseful posts on this thread, maybe 90 percent of them. They are off task, pointless, speculative, or accusatory, this one in included in the bunch. I am working on a glossary of terms used by erfinder. This week is busy for me so I may finish it next week. I am not done working out in the open, I was asking ortho for a picture if his new purchase and for any details that would convince me to pursue what he is pursuing. I sent my real name and phone # to erfinders email a while back and asked for the same from him. He chose not to share his info with me, Ok, we have not built trust, I did not ask for credit card #'s. I work in corrections, I do not trust people either. I learned erfinder's name from Tom C. Not erfinder,ortho, or Kiril. It is after Tom used his name, Steve (supposedly) that others started using it. So There you have it out in the open for all to see, Enjoy my meaningless post that doesn't help dissect erfinders findings. Sorry to all reading this in one year, maybe I will pull and erfinder and delete it in a month. God Bless no hard feelings here, I am concerned about the cause not this fluff. And I do not see Patrick as a fly either. Aln