Dissecting Erfinder’s comments

[bigmotherwhale]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/uf...rchapter4b.htm[ATTACH=CONFIG]3655[/ATTACH]

this shows the reversal in the central vortex, which i belive is correct. thanks, is there any chance of a bigger picture i cant make out any of the other stuff at all

[bigmotherwhale]

Hello
First you need the correct waveform. Thinking is great, but you gotta get building, generate the 1st and 3rd. You can't progress until you get the correct waveform.

Erfinder, Is it not possible use a few drawings, of your own, to help people visualize. That is, if you want people on the correct path, maybe a drawing of coil to magnet interaction?

You said what else can you do, why not post few drawings, I personally I never even seen on of your machines working, so yea, it will be hard to follow. You can't get too frustrated with folks if they have never seen your work!

Or, watch in agony as people try to work through this.

I couldnt agree more picture speaks a thousand words, words mean nothing, unless you speak german... which erfinder does maybee erfinder you dont comprehend the fact that english is a degenerate language with no one meaning. you are putting people who are trying there hardest on the side lines, its a real shame we dont have the tools, but the tools are expensive and most of us are poor, otherwise why would we care about the cost of energy, fuel prices, you name it we would all be driving about not giving a care in the world ......

if everyone went to the sidelines, would you erfinder continue to post? we have to ask questions to get asnwers, i personaly feel many misconceptions and important details have been resolved, what if the breakthrough was made here, with your help, you could save millions, regenerate the biosphere and put mankind into a new era, how would that make you feel?

i will continue reasearch backed by experiments, once you get a feel for things they progress naturaly, you just have to work at it, this takes time, i have been playing with electronics since i was 3 years old, all i had was junk, i made things that werent coventional and defied conventional thinking because i had nothing other than components and an ac dc power supply provided by my dad from the skip at work, in school how the explanations they gave to me for things were not acceptable, the teachers were reading rubbish from books that made no sense, trying to argue that like forces attracted i remember quite clearly, the teacher was stumped and eventualy agreed, matter cannot exist if like things repelled now i think about it i was better off without an 'education'

[Halfcutt]

You must be a young man. i am an old man who hasnt had a fever for a long time, but it sure used to be fun.
I really have nothing to sweat, fever, about, considering i havent even seen one of your motors, curious, but not feverish.
Im just posting to a thread on dissection. i believe the waveform, or at least studying how it is produced, most likely is important. its been a constant in several builds.

[Halfcutt]

Threatened by who?

[erfinder]

Hello
First you need the correct waveform. Thinking is great, but you gotta get building, generate the 1st and 3rd. You can't progress until you get the correct waveform.

Erfinder, Is it not possible use a few drawings, of your own, to help people visualize. That is, if you want people on the correct path, maybe a drawing of coil to magnet interaction?

You said what else can you do, why not post few drawings, I personally I never even seen on of your machines working, so yea, it will be hard to follow. You can't get too frustrated with folks if they have never seen your work!

Or, watch in agony as people try to work through this.

Again folks caught up in replication fever, its no about you getting the right waveform. Its not about you building anything. You cannot progress along the lines "I" would like to see you progress along till you have what I have, what I am offering! You can build whatever you want, you can get the effects on your own, without my input. I have specific things I want you to experience, you cannot with the devices you build! We need to all be on the same sheet, you all are against being on the same sheet! If all of you built a machine the discussion would fall apart! How many successful replications of anything have you seen EVER??? Maybe a handful out of thousands....? When I mention kit I get threatened...the thing you all must comprehend, is I didn't build the machine, it built itself, you need it as much as I needed it, you won't see what I see without it. Take that for what its worth.


Regards

[bob smith]

Bob,

I am thinking about the following :
The coils in series are charged (High Impedance) and are discharged in the coils in parallel (Low Impedance). L-C. The series-parallel connection.
If we short the induced I think we can ring that L-C.

P.S. And how this relates to the "magnetic pole".

Regards
Lman

Lman,
I'm not sure this is what Erfinder is talking about. For myself, I'm going to read through his comments carefully and try to extract what he's saying without my own biases. For me, this requires both intellect and intuition. I see it as trying to discriminate between what Erfinder has said and what others are saying around this device and its dynamics, and at the same time, sitting with his information awhile and allowing its contents to sift, settle and resonate... The way I see it, this may involve being open to a different paradigm for describing what goes on in coils. Elements of that paradigm arise from time to time, but like all emerging paradigms, it's a minority view .... for now...
Bob

[Halfcutt]

Hello
First you need the correct waveform. Thinking is great, but you gotta get building, generate the 1st and 3rd. You can't progress until you get the correct waveform.

Erfinder, Is it not possible use a few drawings, of your own, to help people visualize. That is, if you want people on the correct path, maybe a drawing of coil to magnet interaction?

You said what else can you do, why not post few drawings, I personally I never even seen on of your machines working, so yea, it will be hard to follow. You can't get too frustrated with folks if they have never seen your work!

Or, watch in agony as people try to work through this.

[Lman]

You all are trying....but don't see what I want you to see. With each new post, you all find new ways of tearing apart what it took me years to begin to see and understand myself. Now you all are inserting things that make no sense, and mixing my concepts with your concepts. You all are so far away from where we should be. I have no idea how to proceed, I can only help those few souls who have the tool to see what needs to be seen. I am sorry, I don't know what else to do.


Regards

Hmm,
I am going into read only mode for the sake of the thread. I do not want to discourage erfinder and confuse the others.

Regards
Lman

[Lman]

Analyzing

I am beginning to understand but because of my ignorance in this area I find it hard to explain. So many thoughts now after I began to think about the dielectric. So many things are falling in place now. I will have to sort it in my head but I will tell you about the things I am thinking.

L and C (inductance and capacitance respectively) are all we need to see when we look at the machine. When you see them you have something!

Think about them in a coil and not as separate inductor and capacitor. Think about the phase relation between Voltage and Inductance, and Voltage and Capacitance. At some point they will be both at 180 degree to each other and at the same time at 90 degree to voltage.
This is what appears that it is canceling itself but it does not, because they are two different things.

Two avenues are presented in part and as confused as the presenter, SINE and COSINE. You are familiarizing yourself with the sine function, the cosine function is a mystery that has only been passively mentioned. The goal is synthesis of the two, when this happens, the result is what I call CYMATICS in the stator.

We generate AC waves in motors or generators but that AC is just the SINE. The COSINE is the one we ignore.


Well, I would not like to parrot every post of erfinder and I think you are smart enough to get it now. Just read thinking about the COSINE.

Regards
Lman

[erfinder]

bigmotherwhale,

After I pointed you out to those posts, erfinder noticed that we are looking again to one side of it. And he was so kind to say it more clear than ever




So, we have to invite that what is circling around the wires between the turns.


Regards
Lman

You all are trying....but don't see what I want you to see. With each new post, you all find new ways of tearing apart what it took me years to begin to see and understand myself. Now you all are inserting things that make no sense, and mixing my concepts with your concepts. You all are so far away from where we should be. I have no idea how to proceed, I can only help those few souls who have the tool to see what needs to be seen. I am sorry, I don't know what else to do.


Regards

[Lman]

bigmotherwhale,

After I pointed you out to those posts, erfinder noticed that we are looking again to one side of it. And he was so kind to say it more clear than ever

Look at that link Tom C linked you to, look at the flux exiting and entering the magnet!!! This is NOT what I am saying! What did I say guys? Does this fit what I said about looking between the turns???? NO! THE POLES ARE CONSTRUCTS!!! THEY ARE NOT REAL! MAGNETISM MOVES AROUND THE WIRE IN CIRCLES THIS MEANS WE ARE LOOKING IN THE WRONG LOCATION FOR THE "MAGNETIC POLE". THE POLE YOU ALL ARE PREOCCUPIED WITH IS NOT MAGNETIC......IT'S DIELECTRIC!!!!!! Nature is pulling a fast one on us folks. I have been looking at this stuff for some time now and can and have proven all of the things I am saying to myself. Thinking what you want, at this stage drives you further and further away from where we need to be.


Regards

So, we have to invite that what is circling around the wires between the turns.


Regards
Lman

[bigmotherwhale]

agreed guyzzemf thanks

[bigmotherwhale]

' Likewise, aether serves to transmit energy through this "non- compressibility" quality. In a primary electric coil and secondary electric coil, for instance, induction in the secondary does not take place directly from the primary as is new held by physics, but though and between the two via the aether field. This concept, that of the stimulation of the aether field as means of energy transport, is also expressed by Davson. '

nice

[Lman]

guyzzemf,

A useful link and a good read !
Thanks !!

Lman

[bigmotherwhale]

Well,

Seems the tank circuit with two inductors was new thing to me only.


bigmotherwhale,


This is one of the things erfinder wanted us to see and he said it :




Read posts 112 and 111 as well.

I think Bob was the most focused of all of us.


I say Thank you to Tom C for making it more visual posting that link !


Regards
Lman

yeh i know about corner spins.. its why i was planning on using two driver coils against one magnet, and the relevance of JTDC.

I have experienced using attract and repulsion at the same time, it was a great succes, amp draw was directly proportional to RPM... try my circuit, use small magnets, big ones didnt work for me at the power level i could deliver. i would have tried it again but my small magnets have pulverised... i am yet to find anything other than tiny chips attached to stuff

and yes all motors use corner spin already, but they are symmetrical, making them asymmetrical is what we need to do, and im not talking about ufo politics motors i cant see anything there other than a non symetrical geometry.