Dissecting Erfinder’s comments

[Lman]

REVELATION has come

Silly me ! and all of us

erfinder, you are really patient - thank you for that

Guys,
I said I knew very little about inductors and did some reading here and there, as always from more than one source and at some point it struck me.
Coming back to the thread to post I saw how bigmotherwhale is going in all directions and thought I will select some quotes of erfinder's posts so that he stays focused. But I realized that it has been said to us since the first post and than repeated in different ways.

OK, let us see what happens. What is Tesla saying in patent 512,340 ? He explains that the self-induction may be in disadvantage in AC circuits and he uses capacitors to neutralize it. But what is he saying next ? He is getting rid of the capacitors and replace them with what ??? A COIL ?!?!? He is using the second coils as a small capacitor !!! And what we get - a LC circuit made of two coils. Later he explains that the higher the frequency the smaller the capacitor needed. And we know that he worked with high frequencies

Now, with that in mind please go and read the patent and start reading again the thread from the very first post. Everything will start to makes sense now and believe me it is entertaining. I was smiling at erfinder's posts. He was repeating, underscoring, puting some things in red, than trying to find different ways to say it. Than somebody will be so close but do not get it. And erfinder gets disappointed that we are not getting it We were circling around it all the time. I even said in one post that one coil is discharging into the other but I did not see it as LC circuit

What is between the turns ??? Well, I thought as everybody else - capacitance, potential, inductance. But looking more at the picture posted by erfinder I figured out what he is showing - it is electromagnet as well. And electromagnet should have N and S pole so the spin shown on the turns is wrong. Advancing in the thread you will see that erfinder has told us even that and than aln missed it and erfinder posts two pictures - even more clear to see what he meant
OrthoParamether quoted twice a post by erfinder that had shared a lot, and we did not get that too.

I saw some things that can be discussed later, since some are not related to erfinders machine.

Hope that the people who have accused erfinder will be ethical enough and say at least a thank you to him. Admitting your mistakes makes you more human !!

Regards
Lman

[bigmotherwhale]

I think steve is ramming his head into a brick wall becuse he is trying to explain ideas and he feels its falling on deaf ears.
have you seen his work? why are you in a thread about his ideas? create your own ideas and thread becuse this is not relevant and derogatory.

[Radiantnrg]

BMW, Don't chase "affects" just for the sake of chasing them. State your ultimate goals clearly to yourself and how the "affects" will help you archive them. Our goal is to power houses and cars with simple FE systems. "Affects" don't help us achieve our goals at all. Funny that you put up the graphic of a head ramming a brick wall. I was just mowing the lawn and thinking Steve has created a brick wall and every one is smashing their heads into it. The wall is just an allusion, and Steve has you under his spell. You will go nowhere until you break out of it. I myself got rid of all of his comments and will not read anything by him again.

[bigmotherwhale]

Bob i liked what you said about the entire array of coils connected in series, what about parallel? seems like a good idea to increase H, we are missing vital info about coil connection we can only guess. not sure about the bifiler arangement at all definately no lizt from what i have read about mag amps on the ferris wheel thread that tom posted.

[bigmotherwhale]

Like I said guys....I am not going anywhere.....I am still here....reading your posts...

i hope your not

[bigmotherwhale]

to be honest no offence to you, but i think if i didnt have what steve has said i would be up **** creek without a paddle, it might be easier to do what you want to try and i suggest you do that but you might not get the same result - the result we want. he has spent 7 years reserching, it took that long for a reason - its hard work, we might just get some of the effects he mentioned by meticulously analyzing what he has said and trying to copy at best. i dont have the answers but i do have some ideas of things to try. there is another ferris wheel thread started by tom here and he is sugesting things. one thing i do know for sure and knew the moment i saw what erfinder was doing is that it is a magnetic amplifier, a magneto dielectric one. we might want to look at some of the ideas around BH curve manipulation and specificaly double BH curve manipulation and the resulting area inbetween the two curves. whether this is relevant at all to whats been sugested i dont know. JB recomends we look at the bloch wall i think we should do that too. there is alot to consider we must start with simple experiments, but looking at different areas cant hurt, unless you belive the notion your brain can be filled, tho it is bloody confusing.

[Radiantnrg]

bigmotherwhale said: we can do this together i know it. it will be an uphill climb without steve but one of us might succeed if anyone has a lab right now get the coils out....
i have a 170 quids worth of magnet wire waiting at home...

It will be far easier, now with Steve out the picture! Let the real fun begin! Let all of our brilliance come forth in abundance and shine together! We are free to work together now!

Go to my 2 previous posts describing our build. The mistake people are making is trying to make the same unit or same section of the machine be a motor and generator at the same time. We are going to use a choke coil in a hybrid Bedini circuit to slow down the switching time and use a very small separate switching coil instead instead of having the switching coil on the main coil for very fine tuning of timing. We have about 30K feet of different size wire due in today. We have a 40' x 40' shop space that just needs the cement floor put in. We are here to help in any way we can. Nothing to hide, nothing to boast about. This is very exciting. If you have any coil concepts you want tried then let us know.
You say we might succed. Might, ect. are not words we use! Get rid of Steve's attempted physiological brainwashing that we are all too stupid to do or see anything without him and or his kits!!!!!!!!! Look at our build, it will work, it only needs the right amount of coils to obtain the torque necessary to run the generator. Ok, let's get to work expecting only miracles.

[erfinder]

Like I said guys....I am not going anywhere.....I am still here....reading your posts...

[bigmotherwhale]

have you seen the nasa video of a plate capacitor, remove the plates keep the dielectric medium put another set of plates on and you have a charged cap!
discharge the plates shorth the out independant to the medium and then put the dielectric back in, the capacitor is charged.

erfinder would say between the coils i would look at a picture...

if you are still using the incorrect electron theory, i suggest you move on....

all i can say is russel russel russel keely tesla, and you have all you need i am yet to investigate steinmetz and alex anderson

[bigmotherwhale]

I can relate. Guys, it appears I went off-track on my last post, and I don't want to derail progress. The conjectures I made may be helpful for another context, but I think they take away from progress on this thread as per Erfinder's design. There are 2 things I take away from Erfinder's remarks, and that are his referral to Tesla's patent for orthogonal motors, and the concept of coil winding that ensures unidirectional flux. I think I understand this better now, and that both are related, but am going to step back until I can more fully re-assess what Erfinder has posted thus far.
Bob

i love speculation speculation is why i am where i am today, without it progress would be stifled. i know nothing about the orthogonal motors please share anything relevant...

as for coil winding i think it needs to be one way, by that i mean forward 100 turns back 1 turn forward 100 turns etc... or the tesla pancake method.. i havent decided yet, going up and down the coil is incorrect, stan meyer knew this, he was a genius and his patents are great.

i cant find a link for what i think is correct but i can tell you the way i think it should not be done..

http://patentimages.storage.googleap...2/imgaf001.png

[bob smith]

i was obsseed with stan meyer stuff and have been wrong there are similarities but they are opposites i have been asking the wrong questions

I can relate. Guys, it appears I went off-track on my last post, and I don't want to derail progress. The conjectures I made may be helpful for another context, but I think they take away from progress on this thread as per Erfinder's design. There are 2 things I take away from Erfinder's remarks, and that are his referral to Tesla's patent for orthogonal motors, and the concept of coil winding that ensures unidirectional flux. I think I understand this better now, and that both are related, but am going to step back until I can more fully re-assess what Erfinder has posted thus far.
Bob

Edit: BMW Thanks for that clarification. Guess I was composing while you posted. I like what you said about, and I paraphrase, absorbing power from the dielectric medium.

[bigmotherwhale]

Maybe I'm off-base, but standing back and thinking about things, the following set of linked questions arise for me:

If successive coils on the stator are wound in opposite directions and joined in series, does this provide a means for harnessing the CEMF arising as each magnet on the rotor passes by a coil?
If this is the case, then are successive pairs of coils going to act like series-wound bifilar coils?
And if so, will the interplay between rotor magnets and the entire array of coils acting in series-wound bifilar fashion naturally reach its own resonant point (with resultant lowered impedance) so that in effect, the whole array of coils, joined in series provides a continuous path for unidirectional flux?
Would the dynamics of series-wound-bifilar coils apply therefore to the entire circular array of coils wired in series? That is, would we have...
- decreased current due to cancellation of magnetic fields?
- but increased capacitance between windings?
- increased voltage output?
- and if all the windings were in series, would the entire set of windings behave as a shorted bifilar coil in resonance, with lowered impedance?
If this were the case, would the whole system, in a sense, hum at its own resonant frequency (and lowered impedance) and with the bifilar-like configuration, be open to the dielectric ambient medium?

Bob

erfinder has made it pretty clear the coils go the same direction, and resonance of the coil not frequency dependant, it took me a while but after looking at the photo i posted i realised it was true both need to go the same way, and coils do not have a specific frequency! we need as much storage and induction as possible. either that or my sanity has broken...

the way the energy is amplified is down to attraction, attraction is neutalisation in this space n+s = 0, zero is the dielectic in counter space. the wires are mirrors, dielectric generator, magnetic degenerator, all hyperbolic vortex related see russel

if you want to absorb power you need cold D, creating heat is waste M

i dont know any of this but this is what it means to me. please wcorrect me if you think im wrong

[bigmotherwhale]

my experiment will be to wrap two coils with two windings, to switch either side of tdc one biasing coil can be quite small the other a huge great big load of henries inductor (tesla solenoid style and the impeadance mismatch that we need)
the stan meyer ac coil config is the opposite of what we want....
we need an ac CHOKE coil.
we want the power to be reactive to the supply so there must be a time delay big coil
combine this with correct switching that has been discussed
i was obsseed with stan meyer stuff and have been wrong there are similarities but they are opposites i have been asking the wrong questions but it has led me to this.
we can do this together i know it.
it will be an uphill climb without steve but one of us might suceed
if anyone has a lab right now get the coils out....
i have a 170 quids worth of magnet wire waiting at home...

[OrthoParameter]

I also made sacrifices, which I'm still paying for.
But I am extremely happy of the choices I've made, and the privilege tо look into the hole

[Lman]

I removed all of my videos, I am in the process of reorganizing, and may upload them again some time in the future.

Regards

erfinder,

Please do so !

I have seen pictures of your builds on your site and I am curious to see them in action. They look beautiful indeed.

Lman