Magnetoelctromotive generator producing Zero- and Positive Magnetomotive Feedbacks.

[Faraday88]

Hi Faraday88,
while doing various testing I've also tested Coiled U-Core with magnet moving along ends of U-Core with magnet having its magnetic axis parallel to the plain of the core and perpendicular to magnets velocity, where one of magnetic poles was facing the core and opposite pole was facing away from the core.
The output of electricity appears almost the same as when magnet is moving near coil with usual I-Core. Hence your suggestion would not gain more electricity though gaining Zero Magnetomotive Feedback - or Coiled U-Core will produce electricity without deceleration of moving magnet.

But if you need more electricity than simply do it in the way as I've explained in discussing here Magnetoelectric generators - moving magnets so that both its poles inducing both ends of the U-Core - then electricity output will double (at least). Here is scheme of efficient placing of U-Core near magnets moving on circular rotor which I've seen on you design:
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On the image, the U-Core is placed with its plain parallel to the radius of rotor and perpendicular to the plain of rotor. During revolution of rotor - magnets moving between ends of the core such inducing the core with both magnetic poles causing twice stronger magnetization and producing twice more electricity, also not being decelerating because of Zero Magnetomotive Feedback.

Obviously you should not relay on somebodies testing of yours ideas and make your own experimental prototypes measuring different variants.
Waiting for results of your testing.

Hi,
Yes you are correct, what you have shown here is called a Flux gate Generator. John Bedini has a patent on this iteration called 'Permenent electromagnetic motor-Generator.' this has an exception with the presence of a Magnetic dipole between the Iron bars of the U-shape other than what you have shown.
however, i intended to show you something different as far as the Generator coil (Energiser coil) for back charging of the front batteries is concerned.
did you focus on the coil A and B ...? that would tell you a lot more than what you speculate
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Hi,
I found one patent, Permanent electromagnetic motor generator. US 20020097013 A1:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20020097013

If you mean that one then it has claimed:
"d. a stator comprised of two bars made of a magnetic conductive means, said bars connected by a permanent magnet and having a pole piece at one end of each said bar, said pole pieces thereby magnetized and in apposition with magnets of said rotor, said rotor positioned between said pole pieces;"

Also there are no mentioning that its coils producing twice more electricity that usual coils with I-Cores, because that having magnet instead of middle bar - such constructed U-Core do not produces strong alternating magnetic fields producing by simple Coiled U-Core.

Is that the patent you are regarding here?

[Faraday88]

Hi,
I found one patent, Permanent electromagnetic motor generator. US 20020097013 A1:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20020097013

If you mean that one then it has claimed:
"d. a stator comprised of two bars made of a magnetic conductive means, said bars connected by a permanent magnet and having a pole piece at one end of each said bar, said pole pieces thereby magnetized and in apposition with magnets of said rotor, said rotor positioned between said pole pieces;"

Also there are no mentioning that its coils producing twice more electricity that usual coils with I-Cores, because that having magnet instead of middle bar - such constructed U-Core do not produces strong alternating magnetic fields producing by simple Coiled U-Core.

Is that the patent you are regarding here?

Yes that is it!! just another pointer for you... before you even consider what you mean by 'more electricity' you need to understand the principles of what is Gauge-Regauge mechanism this motor-generator is based on the this set of principle.. the patent describes it in greater details..just a matter for one to get an understanding of what it all means.. always remember the gain in these system always shows up in the Batteries and or the Pulses of Torque when in the Motor phase..but not both simultaneously..
rgds,
Faraday88.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Hi faraday88,
"more electricity" means more Volts and more Amperes, which I explain at my reports about
DEVELOPMENT OF MAGNETO-ELECTRO-MOTIVE SYSTEMS PRODUCING
POSITIVE MAGNETO-MOTIVE FEEDBACK AND ELECTRIC CURRENTS.
The first report can be read at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...magnet-and-zmf

and the second report can be read at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...s/a3c-x-magnet

In the first report I explain construction and testing of prototype where permanent magnet is moving near usual coil having I-Core connected to multimeter displaying max. peaks of 01.1 Volts and *0.27 Amperes, what can be seen on video at:

https://youtu.be/smQX_lBWQ6c

also explaining construction and testing of prototype where the same magnet moving in same way near the same coil but with U-Core connected to the same multimeter displaying max. peaks 02.1 Volts *0.57 Amperes, what can be admired on video at:

https://youtu.be/_zULsh_QYBw

Once 02.1 is more that 01.1 and 0.57 is more than 0.27 then coil with U-core is generating twice more electricity than coil with I-Core does.
WATCH IT YOURSELF, or better test it on your own desk.

When I've tested same magnet moving near same coil with same U-Core but magnet mowing with one of its poles near ends of the U-Core (as you have suggested) then same multimeter displayed 01.0 Volts and 0.27 amperes.

This is why I suggest that you can improve your "rotor and coils arrangement" by placing your coils on U-Cores and U-Cores placing so that magnets of rotor will be moving with their magnetic poles between long bars of U-Cores --- the same coils wil be generating "more electricity" (amperes and volts) which can be fed into the rest of yours complex circuits.

[ageofmagnetizm]

I've actually updated my report about
SIMPLE MEGS AND SEMI-PERMANENT ELECTROMAGNETS.

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...-electromagnet



Two more utility designs have been added and its already eight designs are considering for utility prototypes,
please look over and make suggestion about most efficient one.

[Faraday88]

Hi faraday88,
"more electricity" means more Volts and more Amperes, which I explain at my reports about
DEVELOPMENT OF MAGNETO-ELECTRO-MOTIVE SYSTEMS PRODUCING
POSITIVE MAGNETO-MOTIVE FEEDBACK AND ELECTRIC CURRENTS.
The first report can be read at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...magnet-and-zmf

and the second report can be read at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...s/a3c-x-magnet

In the first report I explain construction and testing of prototype where permanent magnet is moving near usual coil having I-Core connected to multimeter displaying max. peaks of 01.1 Volts and *0.27 Amperes, what can be seen on video at:

https://youtu.be/smQX_lBWQ6c

also explaining construction and testing of prototype where the same magnet moving in same way near the same coil but with U-Core connected to the same multimeter displaying max. peaks 02.1 Volts *0.57 Amperes, what can be admired on video at:

https://youtu.be/_zULsh_QYBw

Once 02.1 is more that 01.1 and 0.57 is more than 0.27 then coil with U-core is generating twice more electricity than coil with I-Core does.
WATCH IT YOURSELF, or better test it on your own desk.

When I've tested same magnet moving near same coil with same U-Core but magnet mowing with one of its poles near ends of the U-Core (as you have suggested) then same multimeter displayed 01.0 Volts and 0.27 amperes.

This is why I suggest that you can improve your "rotor and coils arrangement" by placing your coils on U-Cores and U-Cores placing so that magnets of rotor will be moving with their magnetic poles between long bars of U-Cores --- the same coils wil be generating "more electricity" (amperes and volts) which can be fed into the rest of yours complex circuits.

Hi,
ok i agree with your experimental findings that says it all..i need to do experiments on all that you have described here..more after that..
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[ageofmagnetizm]

OK, I'll help in ways I can, do not mind if I'm not very goed in explanations of processes.

[Faraday88]

OK, I'll help in ways I can, do not mind if I'm not very goed in explanations of processes.

No issues Man... you are welcome!
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[ageofmagnetizm]

One more utility design of simple MEG has been published at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...-electromagnet



This generator has stator with H-Core with many coils on it.
Please make your suggestion which of nine published designs should be preferred for construction of industrial prototypes.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Two more reports have been published.
Do not miss the last one where testing of Permanent Magnets Generator of Megneto Mechanic Electro Inducting Rings
is generating electricity with ZERO losses of energy. Read about testing at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...hanics/mpg-mme



picture shows the second RF PMG-MMEIR 4E6M is being assembled before testing.

Both electric circuits having approximately 50 ohms resistance each and nearly 100 ohms together.
Drive motor was switched on max. 1400 rpm. powered by 16.2 watts battery.
Both multimeters were showing approximately 22 volts and power output of four coils was calculated as 19.4 watts.
Following is table of values obtained during testing of RF PMG-MMEIR 4E6M
having two coils switched off and opposite two coils generating electricity, and values obtained when all four coils where generating.

Number of coils 2 -- 22.0 Volts -- 9.7 Watts
Number of coils 4 -- 44.0 Volts -- 19.4 Watts

So tested RF PMG-MMEIR 4E6M has manifested excellent conversion of energy where mechanical input of energy is
approximately equal to electrical output of energy. Such high efficiency is usual for contemporary electric transformers
where similar principles of efficiency of closed magnetic circuits are applied.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Read new report:

https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...ient-generator

HYPEREFFICIENT AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M.

Construction and methods of utilization and results of testing of
the Axial Flux Permanent Magnets Generator of Magneto Mechanical Electro Inducting Rings .
Generator is made as experimental prototype and during various testing has
manifested hyperefficiency - converting energy so that output of electric energy is more than 1000%
of the input of mechanical energy.



The picture shows the Hyperefficient AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M is being assembled before testing.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Also, plaese,
comment on methods of testing of prototypes which can be watched on videos:

https://youtu.be/6FZ6kz6cs2o

https://youtu.be/oTgOJcxmjCw

[ageofmagnetizm]

In respond to numerous suggestions within various discussions - I release more information about testing of AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M.
The generator was tested with its four 450 ohms coils connected in single electrical circuit with multimeter and various loads, where circuits were measured to know values of total electrical resistance and AC voltage generating by 8 magnets rotor running by 16.2 watt drive motor switched on 1400 RPM.
Main article has been updated with new report:


https://sites.google.com/site/ageofm...ient-generator


Video fo testing:


https://youtu.be/SzlJ6LDgQJ4



short video where AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M is being tested with 250 ohms thermoelectric resistor, and then video is paused and continue with testing of generator connected with 60 ohms electrical inductor, and paused and continue with testing of generator with no load connectet to circuit. During three tests multimeter display same >260 AC voltage what is obvious manifestation of expected Zero Magnetomotive Feedback and enexpectually discovered Hyperefficiency where output electric power is many time greater than mechanical input power of drive motor.
Shall continue...


By Taras Leskiv

[ageofmagnetizm]

Many similar tests with various loads has produced the same result and on following picture generator is testing with certifyed 100 ohms / 500 watts immersion water heater where AC current causes increase of temperature of thermoelectric resistor where rising temperature causes increase of resistance of electric circuit.

https://youtu.be/CeVwXykgaLI

above is link to short video where AF PMG-MMEIR 4E8M is being tested with no load connectet to circuit, and then video is paused and continue with testing of generator connected with 5 ohms electrical inductor, and paused and continue with testing of generator with cold thermoelectric resistor with measured 77 ohms. During three tests multimeter display same approximately 260 AC voltage what is obvious manifestation of expected Zero Magnetomotive Feedback and unexpectually discovered Hyperefficiency where output electric power is many time greater than mechanical input power of drive motor.

Shall continue...
Updated 10 may of 2018 by Taras Leskiv