Device and method of a back emf permanent electromagnetic motor generator

[brodonh]

Hi All,

Mr Bedini, would you be willing to give a little building info on this?

US 6,392,370 B1
May 21, 2002

US 7,109,671 B2
Sep. 19, 2006

Don't know of any researchers that have built from these patents.

The patents invite one into COP>1.

I would like to know the recommended pole piece material and pole magnet type.

I can speculate that cast iron and stacked ceramic mags would work.

Why has little if any attention been given to building from these patents?

Would greatly appreciate any help and info.

Also please correct me if I'm demonstrating gross ignorance.

bro d

[brodonh]

Rick F posted two pics in the yahoo window motor group

Can't give link because the link would put you in "my groups".

Can't copy pics.

Apparently one of JB's builds for US7109671

bro d

[John_Bedini]

iron bars only, magnets were number 8 Ceramics, the original ones were Barium Ferrite.

John

[brodonh]

iron bars only, magnets were number 8 Ceramics, the original ones were Barium Ferrite.

John

Thank you Sir,

Will be looking into it more fully.

bro d

[brodonh]

Thank you Sir,

Will be looking into it more fully.

bro d

Have iron coming for a build and will get after it.

Read through related posts on old WM group and am impressed with the Radus type switching.

"A permanent magnet motor in your future" JB

bro d

[Faraday88]

Permenent Magnet Motor Generator.

Hi,
With the DVD part 33 released, now it should not be difficult to replicate this patent.
one should see which configuration gives the torque for the motor function and which gives for the Generator function.
This device is a combination of the G-field and the SSG all in one...!
Best Regards,
Faraday88.

[brodonh]

Hi Faraday,

John B knows how to run this basic config as a motor with only iron and mags.
No electronics.
"Splain" that one.
I can tell you if you have it right.

bro d

[Faraday88]

Hi Bro d,

with no Electronics Switching used i don't see how switching (electromechanically) can be achieved, This patent is clearly a Motor on pulse and Generator in the next,
have you focused on the out coil that charges another battery if you chose to do so..? what does that say..?
rgds,
Faraday88.

[brodonh]

Hi Faraday88,

It can be switched magnetically with no electronics.

One has to add an iron magnetic shorting bar and also, reverse the polarity of the magnet between the iron bars.

The rotor will be alternately attracted to the bars or repelled when the shorting bar closes and opens the magnetic circuit.

I just learned this while studying the posts in the old Yahoo window motor group.

John B discovered this by accident when an iron bar fell across the iron bars and shorted the magnetic circuit during frame assembly.

bro d

[brodonh]

I need to know from the moderators about what can be reposted here from the old Bedini yahoo groups and also what access does a non member of the old Bedini yahoo groups have of those groups.

Thanks,

bro d

[John_Koorn]

Hi bro d,

From my perspective, you can post links to any of the publicly viewable posts from the old Yahoo groups. Publicly viewable meaning any of the posts that anyone can view without having to be a member of the group.

Anyone who is not a member can view any of the posts, but cannot access the Files, Photos or Links sections.

John Bedini or Aaron - feel free to chime in if you feel differently.

John K.

[brodonh]

Hi bro d,

From my perspective, you can post links to any of the publicly viewable posts from the old Yahoo groups. Publicly viewable meaning any of the posts that anyone can view without having to be a member of the group.

Anyone who is not a member can view any of the posts, but cannot access the Files, Photos or Links sections.

John Bedini or Aaron - feel free to chime in if you feel differently.

John K.

Thanks John K for keeping an eye on the threads. I know that it is a demand on your time.

bro d

[brodonh]

Hi All,

I have the iron cut and sized with the 2 smaller pieces.
I tried the bar to break the mag cct and there is repulsion and attraction as expected.
The mag break bar will have to be as small and light as possible because it sticks rather strongly always.
Maybe a piece of 3/16 sq stock placed on edge.

I have a way worked out with a cam and leverage to move it with adjustable timing.

I'll have 1"D mags and the rotor done in a few days.


Mr Bedini, I'll try trifiler coils (extra gen) with #22 wire and guess on the turns. 'try to err on the heavy side.

Maybe a coil spec suggestion would save me some time. My iron rods are a little less than .75"sq.
They magnetize very well and don't seem to retain it. (cast iron)

Thanks,

bro d

[Faraday88]

Magnetic Field between the rotor and the bar's Field.

Hi Faraday88,

It can be switched magnetically with no electronics.

One has to add an iron magnetic shorting bar and also, reverse the polarity of the magnet between the iron bars.

The rotor will be alternately attracted to the bars or repelled when the shorting bar closes and opens the magnetic circuit.

I just learned this while studying the posts in the old Yahoo window motor group.

John B discovered this by accident when an iron bar fell across the iron bars and shorted the magnetic circuit during frame assembly.

bro d

Hi,
Are you saying that , the magnetic circuit comprised of the stationary Magnet placed between the Iron bars is switched by a reverse polarized Magnet of the rortor, and there by attracted or repelled ....in that case the magnets on the rotor will have to be of alternate polarity..i do'nt see how this affects the drag to add motion... secondly , the patent describes a attraction polarity orientation between the rotor and bar's Magnet to bring the rotor in alignment just before the electromagnets trigger to cause the flip of the juxtaposition of the fields.. (the trigger is affected by Hall sensing..as per the Patent design).
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[MrRonsen]

would like to see a sketch/image/illustration.. your words are not enough for a good understanding of this setup