Zero Force Motor Replication Project

[Aaron Murakami]

I'll start another thread to discuss these other aspects of what John has been talking about so this thread can stay focused on replicating the ZFM. I'll copy a few of the posts here with these questions to that thread so they'll disappear from here and wind up there.

[Yaro1776]

Nice Vid Yaro, are you going to load that ZFM with a low drag generator or something like that?

Hey Alvaro,

Glad the vid was informative and thanks for the positive comment, but this machine wants to run and it needs some additional tweaking to realize its inherent potential. Listening to its message, well there is more to it than meets the casual eye. The next step is to go back to the Iron rotor and explore its performance - JB's machine had an Iron rotor and apparently more torque. Dave W's posts have been very helpful from a direction perspective and the multifilar coil wind beckons... A real world application awaits this motor - a tantalizing and subtle invitation.

I will repeat my observation that this is a most unusual machine - in the Vermont backwoods vernacular "This suckah wants to run"...

Yaro

[AlvaroHN]

Nice Vid Yaro, are you going to load that ZFM with a low drag generator or something like that?

[ZPDM]

Dave,

That is incredible information you shared with the group, thank you. The multifilar really caught my attention but all of it is great, thx again. Darn it you are dragging me into this again, the multifilar can be easily replicated as well as compared with simply increasing the wire diameter. Assuming the reported results accurate, it is either something about the relationship to resistance and establishment of the coil's magnetic field, or there is an interwind effect, (or something I'm not thinking of) again even I can look into this. There is a great deal else there but that certainly seems to bear looking into, wonder if it all applies also to the WM.

As Tom and Aaron and Peter well know this ZFM was almost an afterthought to John's primary presentation concerning the sideband. John was sitting at the back with me before his presentation and I remember him saying to me that he didn't want any cell phone videos being made of what he was going to present in case it made it out. Before meeting John I wondered whether he was a genius with the garage mechanic look as a bit of an eccentric sort of schtick till I met him and realized no that's who he is and he happens to be real smart. So I took my cell phone out to my car as I did not want any misunderstandings. I am not being coy that I couldn't fully follow John's presentation, and I talked to him about it a very little again at the back of the conference. I don't have a formal electronics background so I'm not terribly embarrassed.

I was able to get the 30,000 foot picture that what John was talking about in his last lecture was the relationship of electromagnetism with human physiology. As John noted in his lecture this is similar to what Royal Rife and others looked at and perhaps relates to my mind with what Bob Beck wrote about. Whether from Newton like genius or garage mechanic like skill, my guess is that Bedini's devices may work very well.

I am going to look at the ZFM again especially in light of the new information that Dave Wing gave us, but it shouldn't be lost especially on this forum that John's last lecture concerned the relationship of electromagnetism with human well being.

[Aaron Murakami]

Aaron - a quick check of the YouTube video manager shows that this video is listed as public. Try this link:
https://youtu.be/C3YSK2PSnRQ

Thanks I see it now - it definitely said was still private when I tried the first time.

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Aaron,
you quoted my post but address a David???
the video works from multiple browsers as well as my phone??
anyone else having problems?
I can also vew Yaro's vid no problem...
KR - Patrick

Hi Patrick,

Yes, mean to address you, sorry about that - was looking at David's name.

I can play the video in YouTube just fine but it won't play as an embedded video in this forum - YouTube message says that option is disabled in your video setup.

[min2oly]

Hi Dave,

You have playback disabled on this video so it won't show here in the forum.

Hi Aaron,
you quoted my post but address a David???
the video works from multiple browsers as well as my phone??
anyone else having problems?
I can also vew Yaro's vid no problem...
KR - Patrick

[Yaro1776]

Hi Yaro, you left the video private.

Aaron - a quick check of the YouTube video manager shows that this video is listed as public. Try this link:
https://youtu.be/C3YSK2PSnRQ

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Dave,

You have playback disabled on this video so it won't show here in the forum.

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Yaro, you left the video private.

[Yaro1776]

ZFM Proto Video 6 - Max RPM Demonstration

Hello all,

The last series of tests with the ZFM Proto continue to show the capabilities of the machine with the Aluminum Rotor. For those who may question the performance of this motor the following will present a good picture of the capabilities. Even with the AL rotor it is capable of driving a small pump.

In the video the influence of a concentrated magnetic field was not demonstrated - my bad - but when the motor is sprinting at maximum speed the influence cannot really be noted. A quirk of the motor?

Test results for AL rotor with maximum firing arc duration of 70-75 degrees:
36v 7900 RPM 1.30A

24v 5695 RPM 1.32A
24v 5748 RPM 1.24A.

12v 3061 RPM 0.81A
12v 3124 RPM 0.81A

24v 5900 RPM 1.04A Adjusted advance
36v 8135 RPM 1.20A

The total advance in the above is ~ 15-17 degrees. The static firing arc (as measured with a degree wheel is 70-75 degrees). The ZFM Proto is drawing between 10 and 45 watts depending on its speed.

So this ends this phase of testing of the ZFM Proto. More than enough information in this thread to get this effort going for the interested experimenter. Up to you and your capabilities.

Onward to the next phase of development and stay tuned.
Yaro

[min2oly]

Also... A flywheel is needed to translate the pulse into rotaional energy in these motors. Because the pulse is so high in intensity and magnitude for such a short time period you need a flywheel to harness its energy. These types of motors also put voltage and current in phase... Hence the added performance, as the video in my prior post showed.

For or those who doubt the importance of a the mass of a flywheel picture this analogy... Put a plastic practice ball on a golf tee and swing full force at the ball and see how far it will travel, now take a 3/4" ball bearing and put that on the golf tee and swing the golf club again and see how far the steel ball goes vs the plastic practice ball. The steel ball has much more mass and can translate the burst of energy from the golf swing much more readily. I personally have done this experiment. The importance of mass in these motors are critical.

All this info comes from the Free Energy Generation book, newest edition, where they talk about motors that run on the " B" field and the Cejeka files DVD, where Tom Bearden explains the SSG operation.

Dave Wing

So this was humming along at 3900rpm

at 5:35 the fly wheel falls off
I should have checked the rpm for the viewers on the video at the time but never did.
I did off video and the rpm drop was about 700!
you can hear the speed drop though and if you use some sound software you can put some numbers to it. No matter, it's an easy thing for anyone to prove for themselves.
This has to do with the storage of energy in the flywheel. The pulse motor benefits from this very nicely.

[Dave Wing]

Also... A flywheel is needed to translate the pulse into rotaional energy in these motors. Because the pulse is so high in intensity and magnitude for such a short time period you need a flywheel to harness its energy. These types of motors also put voltage and current in phase... Hence the added performance, as the video in my prior post showed.

For or those who doubt the importance of a the mass of a flywheel picture this analogy... Put a plastic practice ball on a golf tee and swing full force at the ball and see how far it will travel, now take a 3/4" ball bearing and put that on the golf tee and swing the golf club again and see how far the steel ball goes vs the plastic practice ball. The steel ball has much more mass and can translate the burst of energy from the golf swing much more readily. I personally have done this experiment. The importance of mass in these motors are critical.

All this info comes from the Free Energy Generation book, newest edition, where they talk about motors that run on the "A" field and the Cejeka files DVD, where Tom Bearden explains the SSG operation.

Dave Wing

[min2oly]

Here are some more posts to solidify the importance of multifilar windings....


Dave Wing

Thanks Dave,
These were, have been, and still are big head turners. Reading these keeps me grounded and it really makes sense as to Tom's thread on Self Runner.
KR - Patrick

3rd image - "and what about the two extra windings if they were held at a bias voltage inside, would you not get the coil discharging at different times" sorry for the quote here in this thread, it has more to do with the Ferris Wheel coils bias in ckts... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biasing

[Dave Wing]

Hi Dave,

Those images seem to open up to small sizes instead of large. Would you mind double checking how you posted them? Hope there isn't a problem with the attachments.

Hi Aaron, it's all sorted now.