many idea's, but basic info needed

[grounded]

hi guys.

ive been looking into alternative energy for the past year-ish.

i have a plan for a long, heavy, cylindrical bedini, with multiple layers of surrounding coils on it.

im struggling finding specifics and design info tho, regarding the bedini design, even tho theres so many on the net doing it.

theres lots and lots i need to learn, before i go wild. i have a background in mechanical engineering, but my electronics isnt amazing, so i plan to take this slow.

for my basic prototype, so far ive built myself a wooden frame that houses an aluminium kids size bike wheel, and i have some resistors and diodes on there way in the post, to start building a few bedini circuits.

will 20 meter lengths of wire do for each of the coil windings ? 450-800 winds sounds like insane amounts of wire are needed ? .... and i take it, its best to twist the wire into a spiral before wrapping it ? and id imagine, once twist-wound, would shorten several meters, so would need to take that into account for total winds.

and finally, what magnets are best to use, as everywhere i go, i hear different things. specific ferrite's ? specific neo's ? ... best to use in single, double, treble stack formation ?

sorry for the thousand questions... i did spend 10 minutes scanning old posts for info, but didnt find what i was after.

i appreciate any info/tips from anyone, criticism too - thanks.

[Tom C]

a bedini SG is not a prime mover, it does not create torque that is usable, the more you load it down the slower it goes. dont waste your time building a prime mover out of the SG circuit, its an energiser not a motor, its designed to charge batteries. I knew a guy who did this, 300 circuits big slant rotor. it featured huge cumsumption, it produced less than 1/2 horsepower as it ran it burned up lots of transistors, then they towed the boat back into the harbor...... it was a 10k dollar boat anchor. the window motor is the way to go if you want a prime mover. get the free energy generation circuits an schematics it has the window motor stuff in it.

http://www.teslagenx.com/books/tx-fe...category=books

for SG info
http://www.teslagenx.com/digital.html


Tom C

[grounded]

oh... i did not know this. i saw a 25 kilo flywheel going at 5000 rpm, and just assumed that the bedini wheel would work..... thanks for enlightening me on that one.

seems like ive been directing my thoughts to the wrong thing.

theres even less info on the net about the window motor... this will be interesting.

cheers tom.

any idea which book has window motor info in ?

[grounded]

i get the feeling im going to need to do years of research in order to properly get my head round all this, whilst pouring hundreds, if not thousands, into building what im after.
by that time i could be dead ... hahah

...enough to scare anyone off

[Tom C]

grounded,

there is a ton of info on the net, you are right! I would encourage you to experiment. the best book you can get is the free energy generation circuits and schematics. its the first link I posted above. year of research is what we have all put into it. the Bedini SG is the kernel of the technology designed to demonstrate Hi impulse DC charging. what you do with that kernel is up to you. a thorough understanding of Tesla will help you go a long way.

www.teslauniverse.com

if it was easy there would be no shortage of energy and we would all be running around with free running cars and bikes.

I would be interested in seeing the link where you saw a 2.5 kilo wheel running at 5K rpm. I am not trying to discourage you but just the opposite.

Tom C

[AlvaroHN]

Electric car/bike is probably the goal that we all have.

But a self powered electric car, is much easier than a self powered electric house,

why? simple because in a house what you use in electricity is lost, but in a car it is not, say you spend 1 watt speeding up, but sooner or later you have to use the breaks, and the car can perfectly have a super heavy magnetic generator break that will recover some of the power used to speed up. And if you are running it with a window motor (which recovers energy by it self) I bet you never have to recharge the batts.

Alvaro

[grounded]

ah i see, so the bedini base circuit is what makes all of these different variations work. you understand that, and then you can experiment.

you had personal involvement in the writing of that book ? ... impressive, you must know a thing or two.

i checked that design again i mentioned, and it was only 10 kilo's sorry, and alot less rpm, probably 2k, i over-exaggerated a tad !

thanks for setting me straight anyway tom

[grounded]

Electric car/bike is probably the goal that we all have.

But a self powered electric car, is much easier than a self powered electric house,

why? simple because in a house what you use in electricity is lost, but in a car it is not, say you spend 1 watt speeding up, but sooner or later you have to use the breaks, and the car can perfectly have a super heavy magnetic generator break that will recover some of the power used to speed up. And if you are running it with a window motor (which recovers energy by it self) I bet you never have to recharge the batts.

Alvaro

some of these electric motors ive been looking at for cars, start at about 40 KW, and go up to 200 KW...

the average middle-class house over here, could turn everything on all at the same time, and probably not drain as much KW as the lowest power motor.

the amp drain however, (i know nothing about amps).. im guessing will be alot more in the house.

i dont know enough about amps/volts/watts to understand it. wish i did

[grounded]

i didnt like the idea of batteries, but now im wondering, what if you installed a bunch of batteries to drive the motor, and installed a bedini wheel inside the car, to charge the batteries as you went ?

[Tom C]

ah i see, so the bedini base circuit is what makes all of these different variations work. you understand that, and then you can experiment.

you had personal involvement in the writing of that book ? ... impressive, you must know a thing or two.

i checked that design again i mentioned, and it was only 10 kilo's sorry, and alot less rpm, probably 2k, i over-exaggerated a tad !

thanks for setting me straight anyway tom. i would have no doubt been messing around with the wheel design repeatedly, wasting time getting nowhere. ill deffo look into the window type

I had nothing to do with the writing of the book, I just know one of the guys who wrote it. we all stand on the shoulders of giants, Tesla, Bedini, Bearden. Tom Bearden and John Bedini have opened up a world we could not have understood otherwise.

this stuff is hard science pure and simple, all the physics laws apply, especially the quantum ones. Bearden has shown how to harvest energy from the quantum state mathematically, John has done it with hardware.

you need to read up on ohms law to understand the relationships between watts amps volts and ohms. it will help you understand how electricity really functions. if you really want to build a Bedini monopole then get the digital book I recommended to get yourself started.


this is a great place to begin, wanting to know is the first place to start.

even the window motor needs a power source, batteries are needed to store excess energy and to spin things up. flywheels store energy efficiently, its about melding a bunch of scientific disciplines together.

Tom C

[AlvaroHN]

i didnt like the idea of batteries, but now im wondering, what if you installed a bunch of batteries to drive the motor, and installed a bedini wheel inside the car, to charge the batteries as you went ?

As Tom said, the Bedini Wheel (SSG) is not a good prime mover, because is a self rotating energizer and not a motor.

So for a car, in my mind the way to go would be a car with 2 battery banks, 1 bank is the input for the motor (and the motor would be a bedini-cole window motor), the output of the bedini-cole window motor would charge the second battery bank, and the car would have a magnetic generator break that charges the second battery bank when the car is breaking. When you run out of energy in the primary battery bank, you would swap the batteries.

Alvaro

[grounded]

electric motors seems to be the way forward, but the whole 100 batteries thing, and limited range, is a bit of a joke.

[Brian516]

grounded - go look at the A1 MoGen on Energetic forum. Midaztouch designed it and has built himself one and is powering his modified 50cc motorcycle with it. The thread is called "Asymmetrical Singular Coils Motor Generator ..... A-1 MoGen "

Brian

[AlvaroHN]

I have not idea about size specs to run a car is just a goal for the future. I will read that thread thank you