A few newbie questions.

[kingstingtin]

For my battery (12V, 1.2 Ah) voltage is 13.2 does not fit. Because in this case, the current is fed into the secondary battery is too large (about 0.133 amps).

[kingstingtin]

Okay. I think I found a way how to determine the correct operation of the device.
Please tell me, what should be the amplitude of the voltage (EMF) on the power winding, with power off the device?
In my case, the EMF was about +-12V. Maybe it's too much?

[kingstingtin]

Did no one has the opportunity to write what should be the EMF?

[Tom C]

emf?

Did no one has the opportunity to write what should be the EMF?

I dont understand your question, what do you mean be emf? Elecrto Motive Force? are you using a lead acid battery for your charge battery? you mentioned it was a 1.2 hr battery, that is very small for what you are trying to replicate with a single strand SG.

here is what I see as wrong.

for a standard (2 wire) Sg your base resistance is too hi
you are using a power supply at too low of a voltage, you said when you turn it up too many amps go to the charge battery, but you need the proper voltage.
if you are still charging when the wheel is not running, you are in self oscillation, and the wheel is just spinning because the coil is in oscillation, as opposed to actually triggering the base on and off.
you recharge battery is too small.


Tom C

[kingstingtin]

what do you mean be emf? Elecrto Motive Force?

Yeah, but I got the wrong definition. Actually, I was referring to electromagnetic induction. Which is induced in the coil winding (which is connected to the secondary battery). If, during operation, power off the SG, the wheel is spinning by inertia. "H" - shaped wave disappears, and will remain an electromagnetic induction. It looks like a sine wave, its maximum and minimum values will be approximately equal to +-12V. It seems to me that this is too much.

if you are still charging when the wheel is not running, you are in self oscillation, and the wheel is just spinning because the coil is in oscillation, as opposed to actually triggering the base on and off.

Now in my coil no self-excited oscillations. I watch closely what would be during passage of a magnet, only one pulse.

[kingstingtin]

you mentioned it was a 1.2 hr battery, that is very small for what you are trying to replicate with a single strand SG.

I tried to charge the battery on the 12V 7Ah. But it is very slow, about a week.

[kingstingtin]

Allow me one more question. How modified a secondary battery in the process of training? As I understand it, its capacity has gradually increased, and the time it is charged should be reduced. And if I have the charging of the secondary battery it conversely reduced capacity? What should I do? Wait for 20-50 cycles to final ruin the battery?

[Tom C]

Allow me one more question. How modified a secondary battery in the process of training? As I understand it, its capacity has gradually increased, and the time it is charged should be reduced. And if I have the charging of the secondary battery it conversely reduced capacity? What should I do? Wait for 20-50 cycles to final ruin the battery?

Constantin,

There is something wrong with your build, I dont know what...... no it should not destroy the battery. I know you will tell us all it is built perfect, but if it was, it would not be doing what you say it is doing. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same results. Until you can get the machine running properly you will destroy batteries.

For a bifilar SG, running the proper wire at the proper number of feet, coil facing the right way, with ceramic magnets and proper spacing, using an MJL21194 or 2n3055 transistor, a 1n4002 and 1n4007 diode, 1k pot and 25 milliamp grain of wheat bulb, (optional) with a 100 ohm base resistor, you wil see the following.

1- 70 to 125 milliamp draw on the primary
2- the machine will pass the one ohm resistor test
3- you cannot measure the charge current correctly with a meter, it will look like 20 to 50 milliamps, but it is pulsed DC
4- a 7 AH battery will charge in 12 to 16 hours easily.
5- you can use one 7AH battery to charge one 7AH battery with a bit left over.
6- your free wheel time of your rotor will be above 8 minutes, the higher the better, much lower you are wasting energy.

I do not know what else to tell you, we have over 3500 successful replications in the last 5 years. It is being done daily. figure out what is wrong with your build mechanically, then electronically.

Tom C

[Tom C]

I meant to say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results....
Tom C

[kingstingtin]

Thank you very much, Tom. I keep trying to find my mistake. On this, I constantly changing device settings, searching for the right answer. After reading your response, I thought it might the reason in diameter wire or strength of the magnets. In the coil diameter of the wire, I used #21 and #20 (approximately 330 feet, each). The force of the magnets I showed this video -> Finding the correct gap and height coil. - YouTube But no one commented.
I measure the the amperage on the oscilloscope. For this, I connect 1 ohm resistor in series with the secondary battery. And the recorded waveform voltage to the resistor. In this 1Volt must equal 1 Amp. Is that correct? I then, with the help of design software, creating a large-scale chart, and calculate the area under it. Then I calculate the average current pulse. Then, I divide it by the ratio of the pulse duration to the time between pulses. Get current flowing into the secondary battery. Here is a picture illustrating it
I noticed that when I drop the voltage on SSG, the opening of the transistor (the shelves in the "h" wave) is reduced. Consequently, the current will decrease. So, I switched to a lower power.
If this does not work, I plan to experiment with the gap between the core and the magnets. The problem is that it takes a very long time. But I hope that when or whether I will find the cause.

I do not know what else to tell you, we have over 3500 successful replications in the last 5 years.

Maybe some of them are Russian speakers? I communicated with our "guru." Some of them threw it, without achieving results. Other, excluding the wheel and can not achieve the desired results. I'm trying to repeat as closely as possible.

[Tom C]

Constantin,

1- your wire length is too long bring it down to 130 feet, bifilar. that is the specification for wire that size.
2- the 1 ohm resistor test is where you REPLACE the charging battery with a 1 ohm resistor. if the resistor heats up you are using too much cuurrent.
3- do NOT measure the current on the charge side, only worry about what is coming out of the primary.
4- from the video, the washer is magnetized that is why it is hanging on to the transformet laminations. can you get any welding rod?
5- tune the machine with THE PRIMARY CURRENT. use your ammeter setting on your multimeter.

Tom C

you are making

[Tom C]

For some reason I cannot edit posts on my box here at work. I was trying to say you are making things more complicated then they need to be. Put away your oscilloscope, you only need your multi meter for now.

Tom C

[kingstingtin]

1- your wire length is too long bring it down to 130 feet, bifilar. that is the specification for wire that size.

Thank you Tom, I'm not thinking about it. Then I need to look for another wire to wind a new coil. Because I do not know how to cut 200 feet from the old coil. After I twisted the wires together, their length is reduced. Or I can be measured out 130 feet of twisted wires? What is the resistance of the wires is desirable?

4- from the video, the washer is magnetized that is why it is hanging on to the transformet laminations. can you get any welding rod?

I can make better use of the transformer plate (instead of washer) to determine the gap? I can find the welding electrode for a week. Meanwhile, I made another video. Please look at it. In this video I tried to demonstrate the power of residual magnetized -> A comparison of the residual magnetization. - YouTube Do you think the suitability of the material of the core?

[Tom C]

just build it like John designed it.
Tom C

[kingstingtin]

I'm trying to do it. I built a device for this book:
STARTERS GUIDE – PART I
A GUIDE TO INTRODUCE NEW USERS TO AND HELP
REPLICATE THE BEDINI RADIANT CHARGING PHENOMENON
Bedini Peswiki Index Document
Modified and Edited by Miki on September 28, 2007
SSG_STARTERS_GUIDE-One.pdf In this guide, all properly written, or there is an error?
The page number 8 says that the length of the wire (20 AWG) can be from 175 to 350 feet.