A few newbie questions.

[James Milner]

Coil lengths

I have noticed a number of individuals posting different coil lengths for the same gauge wire.
What is the criteria for deciding on wire length?
I got a 5 filar #18Awg at exactly 150ft.
Some are using the same wire at 120ft.

1st what is the outcome of a shorter wire versus a longer wire regards charging and amp draw?

If I could lose 30ft of wire per strand that is a saving of 150ft per coil or 1500ft for a 10 coiler which is substantial.

2nd obviously the impedance of the coil is reduced as well as the resistance. I've heard that reducing the overall impedance of the system has substantial advantages. What are the advantages brought to the table in doing so, particularly with large gauge wires?

Thanks
James

[hortoncoolstuff]

1 min. 17 sec. every minute for the last three hours, so 3 hours

[John_Koorn]

Great video about the Bike wheel kit -- thanks for this!

Bike Wheel Kit Preview - YouTube

There is a very interesting graph in the vid, starting around 1min30sec mark. I cannot read the horizontal time scale. Is it hours, one hour per mark? (can't read it)
Sure would like to understand that, also the vertical voltage scale -- can someone help?

JouleSeeker, if you change the video setting to a higher resolution you can read the scales. The horizontal scale is every minute for 3 hours and the vertical scale is 0.5v per horizontal line on the chart. (between 11.0 and 16.0v)

John K.

[John_Koorn]

I have noticed a number of individuals posting different coil lengths for the same gauge wire.
What is the criteria for deciding on wire length?
I got a 5 filar #18Awg at exactly 150ft.
Some are using the same wire at 120ft.

1st what is the outcome of a shorter wire versus a longer wire regards charging and amp draw?

If I could lose 30ft of wire per strand that is a saving of 150ft per coil or 1500ft for a 10 coiler which is substantial.

2nd obviously the impedance of the coil is reduced as well as the resistance. I've heard that reducing the overall impedance of the system has substantial advantages. What are the advantages brought to the table in doing so, particularly with large gauge wires?

Thanks
James

James,

130ft is the "magic" number. Then you size your wire to the energizer and the batteries you want to charge. For example, we found that 7 x 130ft #20 and 1 x 130ft #23 worked great for a 13Ah lawn tractor battery.

130ft seems to give a good balance between impedance and inductance.

John K.

[Prinsloo]

Hi John K

How about charging 1416 Amp battery pack, 12v batts x 8 off x 177 Amp @ in parallel?

Any suggestions on a build for this sizes? what would you do ?

Theunis

[John_Koorn]

Theunis, what is the size of the battery bank in Ah @ 12v?

John K.

[Prinsloo]

Hi JohnK

Thanks for helping here.

I have 8 x 177Ah -12v batteries,

I have connected them 4 x 177Ah = 708 Ah per bank,

A total of 2 banks that I can swap, charge the 1 bank while using the other bank.

Tanks for your replay

Theunis

[JouleSeeker]

@John Koorn and hortoncoolstuff --- thanks for replies and information!

@all: OK, I've been reading the Bedini-SG book by Peter Lindemann and Aaron Murakami -- very interesting. At the web-site:

"The Bedini SG Is The First, REAL FREE ENERGY MACHINE Released To The Public. It's Been Replicated By Thousands Of Independent Experimenters From Around The World. Finally, A Beginner's Manual That Reveals The Complete Design And Working Principle Is Here."

INCLUDES SPECIAL RUNNING MODE THAT EVEN ADVANCED BUILDERS HAVEN'T SEEN YET!

REVEALED: The * ENTIRE * Bedini SG process is laid out in one single place for the first time ever!

I have one main question as I read, and can't yet find a clear-cut answer:
HOW do you MEASURE the input energy and output energy so as to convince yourself and others that this is indeed free-energy/overunity?

I can understand swapping input and output batteries -- and watching the voltage on these (after equilibrating for several hours) RISE. If the rise in voltage was enough, on both batteries after they had been swapped and after equilibrating, that WOULD be convincing, I think.

Will battery swapping as outlined work as a test protocol?

This from the book suggests (?) that battery-swapping may work as a test procedure for a particular build:

When the circuit is tuned properly, the CHARGE Battery is charging at about the same rate as the RUN Battery is discharging, so the system can run for a long time if the batteries are periodically switched.

If any of you would share a TEST protocol for definitive testing which you recommend and some results using those test procedures, I would be very appreciative.

[kingstingtin]

I finally finished reading the book to the end. I did it slowly because of difficulties with the translation.
As I wrote earlier, the cause of my problems was not the right coil winding. Therefore, the device works in a mode of attraction. But my device does not work properly in this mode. Were the problems with which I started this topic. They all disappeared after I turned the reel upside down and your device is running in a mode repulsion. (I did not cut off the excess wire, because it still has not made a new coil)
The update of the book indicated that the device operates in the attraction better than with repulsion. In my case, I have an opposite result. Or is it all the same because of the very long wires at the coil?

[kingstingtin]

Also, I read there about what has long been observed and did not know what to do. It turns out the charging process should stop when the maximum voltage on the battery?

[kingstingtin]

Hello, All. I've been a little busy this week, so I'm only now able to finish the new coil. I reeled up it in the rules. Wire diameter of 0.63 and 0.45 mm. Of exactly 40 meters each. The gap between the magnets and the core 3mm. Current consumption increased to 310mA. Issued to the secondary battery increased to 100 mA. Resistance at the base of the transistor was about 180 ohms. I understood that I needed to pass to 7 Ah battery. When you start the device without a second battery, I immediately struck thyratron and blown transistor. Perhaps the voltage pulse is too high, and thyratron can not save the transistor.
Now I hope all is well.

[cavedude]

could you tell me how I post a new thread to a forum? Can't find it and have searched everywhere

[kingstingtin]

Today I purchased a new battery
Here's his discharge characteristics
Graph 0.05C discharge ends with voltage 10.5V (at 20 hours).
Please tell me at what voltage I need to stop discharge?

[kingstingtin]

cavedude,

[Tom C]

Today I purchased a new battery [ATTACH=CONFIG]1247[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1248[/ATTACH]
Here's his discharge characteristics [ATTACH=CONFIG]1249[/ATTACH]
Graph 0.05C discharge ends with voltage 10.5V (at 20 hours).
Please tell me at what voltage I need to stop discharge?

get the manufacturers specs for fully discharged. likely 12.2 or 12.4 you my have damaged your battery, hopefully you only did it once......... dont take it that low.... its not designed for it.

Tom C