How to Make a Bedini Crystal Battery

[John_Bedini]

Geoffrey,
No that is not the Oscillator circuit, it follows my Patent. Watch the next video, bottom picture is right.
I tell you what is running it. And what the Cell is.

[geoffrey sr miller]

Here is a lead Zinc Alum Battery

Hi John

1. Is this the Oscillator Circuit (see pic's) that you used for this battery test in your video, that will run itself?
2. what are the values of the components?

Thank you and have a great day!

Geoffrey

[plengo]

That was a very good video Mr. Bedini. It is very interesting how the cell with the Oscillator can perform that task.

I was wondering if the perfect Oscillator for this cell would be one with a "variable input impedance" ? I am not sure if makes any sense but I mean an Oscillator that the its input resistance (impedance) would be a changing based on the impedance of the cell itself so that the Oscillator would adjust its input resistance in sync with the cell. Is this how the SG oscillator works too?

Fausto.

[zardox]

As it happens I had made a small test cell the other day useing alum and sodium carbonate. It has been sitting in my garage and I haven't put a charge on it yet. Won't be today but when I get the chance I will form it and hook an ocillator to it and see if I can replicate it. The plates I used were both lead.

[John_Bedini]

Lead Zinc Battery

Here is a lead Zinc Alum Battery

[LesK]

Thanks everyone.
I have a lot yet to do. I know the chemistry is not worked out yet, and tackling a larger project may be premature. But This is really cool stuff!

John,
That is interesting, I was thinking it was one of those engineered failure sort of things. The battery has a known history and was on a maintainer for the last year before I got it. As well as the others.

Fausto,
Actually the red lead plates are a little more brittle than the gray lead plates. It was the more brittle aspect that caused the one piece to break. So it looks like I should be able to use them fine unless we are getting better results with just the lead ones.

Les

[Chuck Hupp]

Chuck , with AGM batteries I would have to take them apart ? I have access to them at a cheap price since they pull those from Data centers early , about 3 years most still have a lot of life even without converting them , I can get them for about the price they sell them for to recycle

ibedonc, you wont know the state of the battery unless you look inside. Now, with that being said. If you have a good standing voltage it is probably still in fair shape. All you have to do is pry the plasit cover off with a flat tool and remove the rubber caps and add some Alum water to each cell. We have had some luck with that but the battery has to be in pretty good shape still... hope that helps.

Chuck Hupp

[John_Bedini]

LesK,
If you clean the plastic out make a plastic top seal with silicon seal and fill it with alum and run oscillators with lights. I just wanted to say That is what I have seen in all the AGM batteries that I have taken apart just one cell is like that. It's almost if that cell was being used as a big load.
I have seen that in car batteries and golf cart batteries. That is what happens when a cell becomes a resistor and reverses in a series arrangement.

[ibedonc]

Chuck , with AGM batteries I would have to take them apart ? I have access to them at a cheap price since they pull those from Data centers early , about 3 years most still have a lot of life even without converting them , I can get them for about the price they sell them for to recycle

[plengo]

Great work LesK.

Isn't amazing how much we can recover from what we would consider trash? Those big plates will certainly run many lights in your house.

I wonder if you will be really able to re-use the red plates. Mine totally melted when I tried to wash it. So if you are about to wash it I would not. Let the red ones dry in the sun and once dry try to clean (very slowly) using a cotton with peroxide water to remove the acid just enough to be touchable.

Since it is good to have some acid on it take advantage of that and make sure to balance the final mix.

Fausto.

[Chuck Hupp]

This is what I did this morning it sure took a long time to load the vid today
So while I was waiting, I went ahead and separated the plates. I was able to save everything. The red lead was fragile and when I first applied pressure to separate it a small portion of the corner broke off. so with just a little more care I had no further problems. The lines you see in the plate go through and you can hold the plate up and see light through it.
The matting is very fragile. And I had to be very careful when cutting the tabs as the cell still had a charge and if I made any contact between plates pop! I got a nice bit of current flow smoke and melted lead.
So just be careful. Also Ventilation is absolutely required.

Les

Les that may be a good test just replacing that bank of cells and filling with alum solution. John thought you could make a cover out of Lexan or whatever and use silicon to seal the top on. I would think about a 1/4 hole over each cell to add water if needed. Good find on why that battery failed

Chuck Hupp

[LesK]

AGM tear down

This is what I did this morning it sure took a long time to load the vid today
So while I was waiting, I went ahead and separated the plates. I was able to save everything. The red lead was fragile and when I first applied pressure to separate it a small portion of the corner broke off. so with just a little more care I had no further problems. The lines you see in the plate go through and you can hold the plate up and see light through it.
The matting is very fragile. And I had to be very careful when cutting the tabs as the cell still had a charge and if I made any contact between plates pop! I got a nice bit of current flow smoke and melted lead.
So just be careful. Also Ventilation is absolutely required.

Les

[trancedrum]

Hi John,
no I do not have any charge curve at the moment but I will be happy to do one at the next charge ,soon that the battery discharge it self.
I have to say that wen I charged whit the 6 coils it happen for two time that I overcharged ( I ad to live the shop) on till 16.90V and 16.40V the second time .
So if I charge again whit the 6 coils I do not think that I can use the West Mountain ,(to much spike ??) o you think it will be possible whit out damage the Battery Analyzer.
Anyway, if not possible I will use the sun or the power supply but I will definitely do my first charge graph.

Saluti Ralph

Ralph,
That is what I have noticed also with the cells I have been making. do you have a charge curve or could you do that so we can see how it charges back on the curve. That is a long run.

[Tom C]

Chemical cross reference

I thought this might be helpful for some...

Lindsay: Chemical Cross-Reference helps with cross referencing old chemical names for modern chemicals.

Tom C

[Tom C]

Good morning,

I wanted to mention something a bit off topic but important. First, I'd like to thank you Mr Bedini for my first book in electricity, magnetism, RF etc. That was The Boy Electrician which you recommended on some forum somewhere. Those old books were real books!! Secondly, I want all you folks to know that while you spend all your time immersed in cool science stuff there are some of us who analyze what's really going on in the world and I want you folks to know that there are huge changes coming shortly which are not going to be good. Let me put it to you this way: there is a reason all the good books (technical scientific knowledge) are gone from public libraries and why public education is a disaster. Even college text books and curricula seem to be written to prevent the acquisition of knowledge.

My point is, we're all in this boat together against those who wish to enslave us. The more we strengthen each other, the more we strengthen our collective future. Mr Bedini, can you please recommend a reading list of books available online which I can download which will allow an applied individual to read and understand fairly easily? I'm talking about real science like the items you discuss on the old icehouse website.

I hope I haven't interfered too much with the ongoing research on this thread but I wanted to make sure you read it and to impart a sense of urgency to all those scientific researchers: your work and knowledge is crucial to humanity's future. Too many have died taken their patents' secrets to their graves and humanity has been the worse for it.

Best of luck.

here are a few books I have read based on Johns reccomendations over the years.

secret weapons of the cold war- jerry vassillitos
the battery bible
the tesla papers
all of teslas patents
all of JB's patents
anything on stubblefield
anything Eric Dollard has written (there is a bunch over on energetic forum)
all of Tom Beardens writings, posts etc www.cheniere.org
all of Peter lindemmans writings
free energy generation 2nd edition
edward leedskalnins work on magnets study his PMH and other devices, and the coral castle www.code144.com


there is a book company called lindsay books, www.lindsaybks.com that publish a ton of out of print stuff, they had a copy of the boy electrician a while back.

Tom C