How to Make a Bedini Crystal Battery

[John_Koorn]

Branch & all,OK, according to Google (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=w...&client=safari) the pH of "battery acid" is 1. Branch, did you shake up your battery when you added the SO4 or are you measuring the pH of the acid sitting on top? Sorry if you already answered this.

John K.

P.S. I'll do a quick video of my meter

[trancedrum]

Chargin 008

HI all,
Here is my charging graph.
It's late , good night.

L O V E Ralph

[Branch Gordon]

Hey John-

Yes, I shook up the battery. I had ran the battery through I think 5 charge/discharge cycles before I checked the PH also.

My tester probe won't fit into the battery lid holes, so I had to extract some fluid out with a syringe. I am not extracting from deep in the cell though...just from the top.

Branch & all,OK, according to Google (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=w...&client=safari) the pH of "battery acid" is 1. Branch, did you shake up your battery when you added the SO4 or are you measuring the pH of the acid sitting on top? Sorry if you already answered this.

John K.

P.S. I'll do a quick video of my meter

[Chuck Hupp]

Branch we just got a Hanna ph meter and it does not work. I would suggest strips or a different brand of meter.

Chuck Hupp

[Tom C]

macmaster carr has sodiom silicate and ph strips 0 to 13


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McMaster-Carr

Tom C

[Branch Gordon]

Strips ordered. Thanks for checking.

I fear I am gonna have to start over with this battery...

Branch we just got a Hanna ph meter and it does not work. I would suggest strips or a different brand of meter.

Chuck Hupp

[Branch Gordon]

Good prices! Thanks Tom!

macmaster carr has alum and sodiom silicate and ph strips 0 to 13

McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr

Tom C

[Brian McNece]

Be mindful this is aluminum sulfate...

[Branch Gordon]

Ahh yes true. Wrong chemical. Needs to be aluminum ammonium sulfate Tom.

[Branch Gordon]

So if I decide to start over with this battery...is it ok or even advisable to dump the mix out, and re-add just the alum mix? I seemed to have a decent curve at first...but since I capped it off with the extra water it's not so great anymore.

[Tom C]

Ahh yes true. Wrong chemical. Needs to be aluminum ammonium sulfate Tom.

well the guy at mcmaster told me this was the right stuff, so I will call them back and make sure................. oh he said sorry wrong one!! fixed previous post. thanks bry!

Tom C

[machinationus]

That's the Big problem:
I went to green house and got "Aluminum Sulphate", aluminum 17% sulphur 16% neutralizing value 36%
mixed 30% volume with distilled water, coffee filter to rinsed ports.
And its working, sort of.
Did I get the wrong stuff too?

[HeavensPavement]

That's the Big problem:
I went to green house and got "Aluminum Sulphate", aluminum 17% sulphur 16% neutralizing value 36%
mixed 30% volume with distilled water, coffee filter to rinsed ports.
And its working, sort of.
Did I get the wrong stuff too?

Howdy,
The full chemical name is Ammonium aluminium sulfate.
I got a couple pounds off ebay, but rereading the posts, someone posted a link at much better pricing.
Here is the link
Alum Powder — Leaveners & Thickeners — Cooking & Baking — Nuts.com
Hope that helps..
Im still waiting for a couple of chems to arrive til i get to play.
Until then i am rereading and and rewatching Mr. Bendidni's Videos.... I am so far behind, but im willing to learn.
Thank you John and Chuck.

I do have a question..Due to high shipping to alaska the only cost effective way for me to get sodium silicate, was in powder form.
To get it to state to which John is using,that would be wieght to distilled water, yes?
I do not think its by volume....

[Wei]

Got mine from here:

Alum Powder - Used for Pickling, baking and as a preservative - My Spice Sage

It works for me.

[nickle989]

John B, have you thought / what would be the negative impact / of a referance anode or cathode for a small circuit for continous impedance matching? or for a ratio of on and the reverse to "de-surface" (i like the word degauss) or is that the purpose of the run and charge battery? Hopefully these questions are not to rudimentary. Thanks.